Lightroom ignores smart filter masks

I just noticed the following problem after upgrading from LR4 to LR5:
- Select RAW (.CR2) file in LR5
- Edit in -> Open as Smart Object in Photoshop (CS6)
- Apply smart filter
- Use smart filter mask to apply filter to portion of image
- Save
When viewed and exported as a .jpg in LR5, the filter effect is not masked, but applied to the entire image.  The .jpg saved directly from CS6 is correctly masked. As a workaround, the smart layer can be duplicated and rasterized.  Is this a defect introduced in LR5?
Update 6/27/2013:
The problem also exists in LR4
It is not related to RAW, or Open as Smart Object from LR.  It can be reproduced by:
- create a new image in Photoshop CS5 or CS6
- convert to smart object
- apply smart filter (something noticeable, like solarize)
- add a smart filter mask for a portion of the image
- save as a .psd
When imported into LR4 or LR5, the smart filter mask is ignored, and the filter is applied to the entire image.
Can anyone else reproduce this problem?  Is it a known limitation of LR?
Message was edited by: keg415

I doubt it. When you operate on the layers level, all you have is pixel values of the individual layers without one layer knowing about the other. Filter chaining outside of what smart objects offer would require a much different approach to the whole matter and then we talk about a workflow similar to node-based compositing applications, where each processing operation is concatenated with the previous one in terms of how the code runs under the hood. Not something that will happen any time soon in PS, I think.
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