Lightroom+RAW+IR+disable auto white balance

Hi all,
My question is simple:
What is the thing (function) who change my raw automaticaly and who to disable it.
Look, my raw in windows
http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss140/ankhsunamoon/lightroom%20ir/raw_zpsk5empcsa.jpg
I import this raw lightroom and he's for a few second like that
http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss140/ankhsunamoon/lightroom%20ir/normal%20raw_zps7gktn mx9.jpg
and after this few second a become like that
http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss140/ankhsunamoon/lightroom%20ir/after%20import%20in%2 0lightroom_zpsjdu6amq5.jpg
And I don't know why ...
Thank's for reading I waiting for your answers, regards.

The IR Treatment is something that is processed in the camera. It is a camera setting that Lightroom doesn't read. That's because the setting is one of those individual settings that is not in a standard location. The reason you can see the effect in the camera and in Lightroom for a few seconds is that you are seeing the embedded JPEG preview. But then Lightroom builds its own preview from the raw image data, ignoring almost all of those in-camera settings. If you want the IR Treatment to show immediately in Lightroom without any adjustments, then you need to shoot that image in JPEG mode. That way, all of the camera adjustments will get "baked" into the image file. Lightroom will not be required to interpret anything.

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