Lightroom vs photoshop color management in printing.

lightshop gives me completely different results when printing even using the same exact profile info (let printer decide) and relative method. same image works well in photoshop but shows sky as purple (instead of blue) in lightroom. any ideas what im missing? or maybe atleast why this is happening?

I don't use printer decide but do use the icc paper profile and obtain WYSIWYG results,

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    The result to this was MUCH better. The soft proof is a little redder than the print, but I can adjust that by creating a curves adjustment layer and pulling down the red curve in the middle a little bit if I want to see what the print will look like. I can live with that.
    Also Jim pointed out that those papers that you mentioned are in fact a little warm in tone -- put Velvet Fine Art next to a piece of ordinary copy paper from say, Staples, and you'll see the difference. He suggested that if it's the matte look I want (it is) that Hahnemuhle makes a couple of papers that are brighter: Photo Rag Baryta and Bright White He also likes Ilford Gold Fiber silk, but that's a luster satin finish. You can download the Hahnemuhle profiles from Hahnemuhle's web site and compare them in "Soft Proof" mode in Photoshop with the Epson papers you mentioned and get an idea of the difference with your images. I haven't actually printed on them yet, but I see what he means.
    Good luck, and I'd be interested to know how it goes for you.
    --Helen

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