Lightroom4 prints are too light

I have documented the lighter print output from LR 4 a while back and have been waiting for someone at Adobe to notice and offer some solution to this problem. I use a robust printing workflow and have done the experiments under very carefully controlled conditions. The same photograph printed from PS CS5, PS CS6, LR3 all look the same and the print from LR4 is a good deal lighter, probably 1.5-2 stops in exposure terms. This is a problem that seems specific to LR4 and has persisted over several updates. Could someone from Adobe address this question please.
Cemal Ekin
Posts documenting printing problems:
http://www.keptlight.com/2012/03/lightroom-4-printing-issues/
http://www.keptlight.com/2012/03/lr4-print-issues-part-2/

In case any Adobe staff read this thread, I am updating with more information. I have uninstalled LR3 and LR4 altogether. Just to eliminate another hypothesis, I printed the same image after uninstalling LR3 using LR4. There was no change from the earlier prints I had made.
I reinstalled LR4 with no plugins or add ons. Then printed the same image from LR4 and then Photoshop CS6. The print from LR4 was noticeably lighter with a little shift to magenta. I have scanned the prints with no adjustments in the scanner or afterwards other than cropping to eliminate the white border. I am attaching 4 images, LR4 screen capture and Photoshop screen capture of the image. They look identical as they should. Then, LR4 print scan and Photoshop 6 print scan both of them a little darker than they look under daylight balanced viewing light. As you will see, tonality and colors of the PS6 print is the same as either screen capture (with some mental adjustment to account for the darker scan of both). However, the LR4 print is a good deal lighter than either screen capture or the PS6 print.
I don't know what else I can do.
Here are the images:

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I did as you advised, and imported another folder of layered master files into LR. The first folder that I imported I had used the "none" development preset. On the second imported folder I used the "Zeroed" preset as per your suggestion.
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