Limit a "child" smart collection to only photos found in the "parent" collection set

Sorry if this question has been asked before, but here it is. I'm starting to organize my pics into Collections, and while some of those collections might be topic/keyword-driven (like a Collection for "spiders" or "flowers"), many of them are for events or "happenings", such as a birthday or Halloween or a trip to Florida. Within each collection set (which I call the "parent"), I'm making "child" collections that narrow down the photos in the set in increasing levels of perfection. This is pretty much what Scott Kelby and others evangelize, and I like the idea. So for instance, I'm working on my child's 3rd birthday party photos, and I really just want the following structure:
Cooper's 3rd birthday [this is a Collection Set]
- All photos [every photo I took, minus the lousy/duplicate ones I deleted after import]
- Picks [the "best" pics - photos I've flagged as a "pick" in Lightroom - which I'm going to upload to Flickr]
What I'm trying to do is simply make "Picks" a Smart Collection that automatically contains any photo in the "Cooper's 3rd birthday" Collection Set that also has a "pick" flag on it. But it seems there's no way to tell Lightroom to limit a Smart Collection to only the photos in the parent Collection Set. Or is there? If I have the "Picks" Smart Collection look for all flagged picks, it searches the whole catalog, not just the "Cooper's 3rd birthday" Collection Set.
(Note: I don't import into folders on my hard drive for different events, I just import everything into folders by month/year, so I can't use a folder name as a search criteria.)
In this case, I see two immediate solutions, both of which are sort of workarounds, not a universal "clean" solution:
Add an additional criteria to search for "picks" that were also captured on the date of the party
Rename the child collection "All photos" to "Cooper's 3rd birthday: all photos" and then use that text as a search criteria for the smart collection
I know that this is a Scott Kelby setup (making sub-collections that are increasingly specific subsets of other children in the Collection Set) and not an Adobe-designed system, but still, it seems like telling a Smart Collection to limit its scope to the Collection Set in which it resides is an obvious feature. I'm inclined to think I'm missing something here.
Any thoughts?

Daniel940 wrote:
Any thoughts?
I think it's a good idea - consider making a feature request here:
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/new
PS - In general, I like the idea of smart collections being treated as fancy lib filters, so their selection along with other folders and/or collections serves to narrow (like it used to be) instead of broaden (as it does now). Oh well, have a little regress with your progress...

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