Limiting Order Proposals

We have a business scenario where we will only intend to produce over a period of time a particular quantity that are customer has committed to buy. There may be multiple process orders over the course of weeks or months to make this quantity. Materials are procured by vendors based on that quantity, and not tracked in SAP.
However there are circumstances where forecast or sales orders may exceed this committed quantity, and planned orders generated by the MPS run can then exceed committed quantities.
There is a need for this to be flagged for the planner for followup to either reduce the demand or to expedite additional materials with the vendors.
Is there any way for the system to keep track of historical and planned production and to generate an exception message if order proposals exceed committed quantity, prevent MPS from creating planned order proposals beyond committed quantity, or to prevent conversion of planned orders to process orders when they would cause the committed quantity to be exceeded?

Hi,
It looks as if you are doing material allocations per customer.
There's a specific functionality for this, check it up.
After you have defined the allocations, you then can use the atp logic against these allocations.
This will lead close to what you are looking for, since if a customer has used all of its allocation the system will not commit any further, even if there is stock available.
Hope this helps a bit; I know that there's some work to do to make this work.
Regards,
Mario

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I am currently on SCM 5.0 system. For a location-product on uploading the consumption data, the forecast gets generated but no Order Proposals are getting generated at all. When I look at the Source of Supply, the delivery dates for the location-product are appropriately displayed.
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Hi,
I was able to solve both the issues with a change in the Forecasting Frequency profiles where the reference day for start week was on "FRP Location Activation Date". I changed it to Calendar date and checked the forecast and it worked with the Order proposals also generating. Also, the location status check out for the mentioned location was in "OK" state.
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Regards
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Maximum no. of order proposals per deadline exceeded

Hi PP gurus,
When I am running MRP through T Code MD42, the error :Maximum no. of order proposals per deadline exceeded is coming.
In the material master Lot Size is Fixed order quantity (FX) wit Fixed lot size 65, when I am changing this to >80 , MRP Run is executing without any error. Pls. come with your views reg this
Note :In OPPQ Max no of proposals is 50 and in OMDV No of planned order is 500.
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Hi Datta...
I have the same problem, when I want to run MRP there is a message error "Maximum no. of order proposals per deadline exceeded". I was maintained forecasting and MRP on material master for this material.
I try to change the value of max no. of proposal of 50 to 80. And the problem is fix..
My question, Why I must increase the value? And how the fixed value that I must set in SPRO?
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Is it possible for F&R order proposals to be converted into purchase requistions in SAP ERP?

HI,
Check this link,go thro the
Direct transfer of order proposals at the end of the document
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm70/helpdata/en/d8/387c882c144c08b31ca1a7ea60f72d/content.htm]
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm70/helpdata/en/77/9822fc0bcb48d5a26c8b07670f0c8d/frameset.htm]
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I am not able to find the necessary SPRO Customizing settings in SAP F&R 5.1 wherein I can define the order proposals to be released immediately after the forecasting run. It would be great if someone would be able to guide me through.
Best Regards
Prashant Kedare

You need to work on Exception management to supress some messages , Further more there are some standard inbuilt checks which we cannot bypass through configuration. I would suggest you to use BADI -Method FU_OPM_BADI_001_CHECK_ORDER.

Troubleshooting Maximum No. of Order Proposals Exceeded

Hi PP Gurus,
Can any of you tell me the best way to troubleshoot the above problem after an MRP run? When I run MRP in the background - MDBT I occasionally get an error in the log saying "Maximum no. of order proposals per deadline exceeded" for one or more materials. I have found I can track this down using CO46 and showing only transaction with exception group 8 (terminations) but I have to run this one MRP Controller at a time and I have around 20.
Any suggestions for a simpler method.
Thanks,
R

Dear,
Please refer my reply from this link,
Maximum no. of order proposals per deadline exceeded
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R.Brahmankar

Firming of order proposals

Hi,
I learnt from the books that the order proposals falling within the PTF are firmed and no automatic changes are done during the planning run. There are 4 firming types. Can you explain from the end user point of view what is firming and how do we do manual firming?
Sridharan

Hi,
Firming Planned Orders and Components
Planned orders created automatically by the planning run are continually adapted to suit changed requirements situations. If you want to prevent the planned orders from these automatic changes, you can firm them. Firmed planned orders are no longer changed by the planning run, that is, the order quantities and order dates are not changed. You can only change firmed planned orders manually.
Firming Planned Orders
When manually creating or changing a planned order, the system automatically proposes the firming indicator. If you do not want to firm the planned order, you can cancel this indicator.
If the planned order has been firmed, the system will no longer make any automatic changes to either quantities or dates in the planned order at material level. However, the components of the planned order material may be adapted if the bill of material has changed.
Firming Components
Any manual changes which you make to the date or the quantity in the planned order are automatically passed on to the components by the system. If you want to ensure that no further automatic changes can be made to the components of the planned order material, you can set the firming indicator for components when processing the planned order. If the firming indicator is set for the components, the planning run will not re-explode the BOM.
The firming indicator is automatically proposed by the system when you manually change or create material components in the processing function of planned orders. The indicator for firming the components can only be set if the planned order is also firmed.
You can also firm individual components to prevent automatic changes to quantities and dates. You set the firming indicator for individual components in the screen for processing components.
Firming Type
The firming type determines how order proposals are to be firmed and scheduled within the planning time fence during the planning run.
The following firming types exist:
Firming type 0:
u2022     Order proposals are not firmed automatically. With this firming type, no firming is carried out, instead, the materials are only provided with the indicator for MPS. Thus, they can be planned in the special planning run for MPS.
Firming type 1:
u2022     Order proposals that move into the planning time fence are firmed automatically as soon as their date lies at least one day before the end date of the planning time fence. The date of new order proposals that are created in the planning time fence is rescheduled out to the end of the planning time fence. Therefore, these new order proposals are not firmed.
Firming type 2:
u2022     Order proposals that move into the planned time fence are firmed automatically so soon as their date lies at least one day before the end date of the planning time fence. Within the planning time fence no order proposals are created by the system.
Firming type 3:
u2022     Order proposals that move into the planning time fence are not firmed automatically. The date of new order proposals, created within the planning time fence is rescheduled out to the end of the planning time fence.
Firming type 4:
u2022     Within the planning time fence, no order proposals are created automatically by the system, that is, the system does not solve the shortage.
Hope it will be Helpful.
Regards,
Vijay.

No of order proposals to be limited

I have a material and for this material requirement is 500 and in the material master min and max lot size is 1. When i do MRP run system is creating 500 orders. Where can i control this means system should not create more than 200 orders. Upon knowing this users will increase the min and max lot size and do the planning run again.

HI,
You can maintin maximum number of procurement proposal in Plan parameters / MRP group level parameters for MRP->Error Handling.
MRP will be terminated if procurement proposals cross this limit. DO check in Sandbox.

Cancel Confirmations for Limits Orders in SRM.

We are able to Create Confirmations in SRM for Limit orders and It creates a service entry sheet in ECC with Mvmt Type 101.. When we try to cancel these Confirmations from SRM. It a creates a Cancellation document in SRM but it doesnu2019t flow to ECC.. when Checked in the Shopping cart Related documents it is found that the Qty is getting added up even for cancelled Confirmation which got created.
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Kindly answer my following query.
I have created PIRs before/inside my PPDS Horizon (its also falling outside horizon as SNP horizon is shorter than PPDS Horizon). If I check the PIRs created by me in /SNPAPO/RRP3, it also shows me planned orders corresponding to them. However, if I create PIR outside PPDS horizon then system is not automatically creating the planned order.
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Edited by: Rinju Mukherjee on Sep 26, 2010 10:05 AM

Dear Rinju,
Check in Product Master PPDS view the Planning procedure maintained? if it is balnk check in the heuristic, the palnning procedure maintained.
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HI All.
I have a query on MRP.
We run Total planning for a plant in a night batch job The parameters for variant are as below
Planning Run Type: NETCH
Creation Indicator for Pur Req 2.
Planning Mode 3 Delete & recreate order proposals
Scheduling type Lead time scheduling
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Hi
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rewd if usefull !!
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URGENT PLEASE HELP - Source determination in Limits Carts not working

Dear all,
We have implemented SRM 4 on Server 5.0 and ECC 5 backend.
We have in our environment service masters that have been catalogued and linked to Contracts. When one raises a cart and selects one on these catalogue service items, a backend PO correctly creates and references the contract as specified in the catalog.
The problem we have discovered that if we raise a Limits order and specify the material group stipulated in the contract for a service, source determination fails to "pick up" this contract line. We are forced to enter a supplier all the time!
Also if we raise a text service line and select from "internal Goods/Services" a Service Master record and add it tothe cart, surce determination also does not pick up the R3 contract/line that matched this service. This means that when POs are created in the backend, they are not referencing any contract (no call-off)
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Hi Grace,
The contracts that are created in SRM can only be refered as Source of supplies while creating shopping carts if your are working in Extended Classic scenario.
In case you want to refer the back end contracts, Info. records for creating shopping carts you have to implement classic scenario.
The standard SRM does not provide the functionality you needed where as if you want to use back end contracts for a particular product category you can implement "Controlled Extended Classic Scenario BADI " which makes the classic scenario active for that product category, there by a back end contract can be referred for that product category when ever a shopping cart is made.
Hope this makes you clear. Clarifications are welcome.
Award points for suitable replies.
Rgds,
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Order proposal in MRP

Hello experts,
when I run MRP, I want ONLY ONE PLANNED ORDER for the material for a fixed quantity. Even though the shortfall is more, I want only one planned order for a fixed quantity.
I have tried FX. But I get multiple order proposals with a constant quantity.
Kindly help.
Regards
Tom

Hi,
I don't think your requirement can be solved in standard SAP. As I checked lot sizing procedures I saw that SAP concept is to avoid material shortage - your requirement is against this.
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/fe/819b9f643b11d3b4e40004ac160649/frameset.htm
If you want to get one planned orders, you should use period lot sizing procedure - in this case you would get only one for the specified period. But at the same time to get fixed quantity makes no sense since requirement may vary from time to time...
Fixed lot size can't help as described by you because you get several PldOrd with fixed lot size if the requirements are higher than the fixed lot size defined by you.
You can only terminate the planning run if more than one procurement propsal should generated by the system (MRP > Planning > MRP Calculation > Define Error Processing in the Planning Run).
You can specify a threshold value for the maximum number of order proposals for the fixed lot size in Customizing for MRP in the IMG activity Define error processing in the planning run. If this value is exceeded, that is, if too many procurement proposals are created for a date and for a material, the material is provided with a termination message.
Rounding down would be the best if it was possible to round down the quantity.
Well, I have doubts whether you can solve this in standard system.
(Maybe if you describe the business process experts can suggest you a workaround or something.)
Regards,
Csaba
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Feb 17, 2009 11:25 PM

Scheduling firmed planned order

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In the MF50-planning table firmed (as customized in REM-profile with parameter "Allways Firm")
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The MRP/program RMMRP000 is updating the production dates of these FIRMED orders to the actual date/today. Because of this the planned order is shown on the actual date in the MF50 instead of the original planned production date in the past..
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Do you have ideas about this ?!
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Hi,
MRP-type is customized with firming-type '2-Automatic firming and order proposals rescheduled out'.
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markus
Edited by: Markus Krauss on Aug 5, 2010 8:55 AM
Edited by: Markus Krauss on Aug 5, 2010 9:37 AM

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Hi,
We have a requirement for routing changes to Sales Orders through an approval after booking of the order. The changes which need to be tracked and routed through the approval workflow are changes to Scheduled Ship Date and Quantity in the Order Lines.
Please can anyone in this forum provide ideas/options for developing a solution for this requirement.
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Balu

Hi Prashant,
Yes. You are right. The requirement is to approve changes to SSD and Quantity. I am providing detailed description of the requirement for your reference.
Regards,
Balu
Change Order - Customization
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Scenario
Customer orders once booked go through changes (scheduled ship date, quantity, request date and ship to address) on a regular basis. These change requests need to approved by
1. The Plant Scheduler
2. and Logistics
Currently these processes are done through offline requests (email, or verbal)
Order Management Module Limitation
Order Management module does not support change order approval and hence there is a need to customize the existing workflow.
Solution
The process would be as follows;
1. The order is booked and the line status becomes ‘Awaiting Shipping’.
2. Change order request is placed by the customer. (E.g. request date change)
3. CSR updates the ‘Request Date’ field. At this point the line status should become ‘Pending - Internal Approval’ and accordingly reflect in Production Scheduling Application
3. Approval notification is sent to Plant scheduler, Formulation Engineer and Logistics. This approval notification should follow a hierarchy, i.e. first needs to be approved by scheduler and so on.
4. Once approved by process owners, the line status becomes ‘Awaiting Shipping’ and follow the normal process.
5. If rejected by one of the process owner, then the status should become ‘Booked - Internally rejected’.
6. The line status remains ‘Booked – Internally rejected’, and should not progress, unless approved by the process owners.
Additionally a notification needs to be sent to Scheduler, Logistics, and Formulation Engineer regarding any change to an order.

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