Line Weight View

I have Adobe Pro 8 and make documents for other people to view in reader, i have an issue with line weights being too thick. No problem just check the line weight under the view menu in Pro, but i can't save that choice in the document and that choice is unavialble in reader. can i set the line weight default to on? or is there some way of saving my selection and allowing other people to view it the way i do?

Small is normally the problem that is an issue with the line resolution for print. For big lines, you probably will have to go back and adjust the original document. I do not think there is anything you can do in Acrobat - it is not a graphics editor.

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We are using "line weights view" to view drawings at a high zoom level. We would like to print the current view including the "line weights view".
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Hi marybelleanne
Sorry, but what you see is what you get. Why would you want
to change it? Are you finding it difficult to see? If so, perhaps
you should consider submitting a feature request that would ask for
us to have the ability to define the color and width? You may do
this by
clicking
here.
Cheers... Rick

Line weight printing options

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Is there a possibility to print the "line weights view"?

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to change it? Are you finding it difficult to see? If so, perhaps
you should consider submitting a feature request that would ask for
us to have the ability to define the color and width? You may do
this by
clicking
here.
Cheers... Rick

Line Weights in Acrobat X Pro

Hi People,
When I opened a pdf attachment in email (Outlook) the "Line Weight" is very very small. When I save the attachment and then open it in the free reader the line weights are all OK.
I have tried toggling the "Line Weight" option in "View, Show/Hide, Rulers & Grids, Line Weights", but I see no change in the display.
What am I missing?
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/Oldbloke49/Acrobat%20X%20Problem/Acrobat.jpg
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Hi Anoop9178,
YES, YES! That fixed it. I am very grateful
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Line Weight

I open a PDF of a drawing. I turn off line weights to be able to view it better. I want to save it in that format to send to someone. How do I do this? Also, can I change the preferences of the program to automatically turn off line weight?

The "fix" is in the transform panel. Click on the scale
portion of the panel with anything on the paste board selected. You
will then be able to turn on the function to scale strokes. Just
click on the box to select that option and turn it off when you
dont want strokes to scale.

Line weight changes when using Align to Pixel grid

When I select Align to Pixel Grid in the Transform Panel, I see line weight changes occur. I try to change the line weight in the either the Stroke or Appearance panel and it will not change, no layers locked, any ideas how to change the line weight?

Chouettecacahuete wrote:
... I noticed that the line increases from 0.5pt to 1pt mainly (although not always) on straight lines, anything with a bezier curve seems to remain as 0.5pt.
Just try this, with snap to pixel grid on, create 10 pixel long straight horizontal 1pt line with the pen or line tool. You won't be able to change the stroke weight to other than whole numbers. But if you rotate the line with only 0.01 degrees by typing this for rotation in the Transform panel, then you can change the stroke weight to 1.25 for example. When creating artworks for for screen display always verify the result with View > Pixel Preview turned on.
tonyharmer wrote:
...I only referred to Photoshop to illustrate the behaviour - vector tools aside, everything you do in Photoshop has to be whole pixels
As I said, Photoshop doesn't have snap to pixel grid feature like Illustrator. You can easily create fuzzy lines in Photoshop if you are not drawing them precisely in the middle of the pixels. To check what I'm talking about try this In Photoshop, create a new document with a very small pixel dimensions like 20 x 20 pixels and zoom to the maximum 3200% to see clearly the result. Fill the image with light gray color so you can see the pixels when View > Show Pixel grid is on. Then with black color try drawing a straight line with any tool that creates pixels like a hard brush or the line tool used in pixel mode, and try using constraints like holding Shift while dragging. You will see that unless you draw the lines exactly in the middle of the pixels it will be fuzzy and not clean. The only way to ensure not fuzzy lines in Photoshop is to turn off the anti-aliasing. You do this by unchecking the anti-alias for tools that have this option and instead of burshes use the pencil tool (which is brush without anti-aliasing). And Illustrator works the same too if you turn off Anti-aliased Artwork in its general section of the preferences and view the result with View > Pixel Preview, you don't need to have the Align to Pixel Grid on, the aliased result will be the same like in Photoshop.

Freehand MX line weight issue?

I am having a problem seeing the difference between say a 1pt line and a .5 line when viewing and creating an illustration at 100%. The line weights look identical. If I view or edit the illustration at say 200% the line weight difference is noticable. What is going on here?
Thanks....

Freehand is based on the Postscript imaging language which uses 72 points to an inch. Freehand was written when the prevailing computer display resolution was 72 pixels per inch (72ppi).
Therefore, 1 point = 1 pixel.
To display a stroke finer than 1 pixel, Freehands’ Preview mode can’t show a partial pixel, but it does show a lighter shade of gray.
If you’re designing web images, don’t use strokes finer than 1 point (1 pixel) because they won’t display well in 72ppi raster images.
When working with very fine strokes for print or other kinds of output, I find it easiest to work to scale. Make a custom scale in your page rulers such as 4 points = 1 point (400%).
View > Page Rulers > Edit
Please keep in mind that today’s computer displays have a higher pixel density than 72ppi so 100% view in Freehand won’t be actual size.
Judy Arndt

.pdf line weights

hello all--
this has been bugging me for a while: vector line weights not scaling properly in .pdf's (when viewed on screen in reader, preview, etc). My workflow is usually from illustrator to indesign for layout, then export to .pdf--and the final linework always appears too heavy on screen (until zooming way into the document). To illustrate, the attached image shows linework originated in illustrator, placed in indesign on the left and the same indesign file exported to .pdf on the right-- scaled aproximately the same on screen. Any ideas much appreciated. LML

Most likely, this has to do with how Acrobat displays thin lines. It may be instructive to turn off line art smoothing in Acrobat's preferences. If your (e.g.) 1 pt lines are making it into the PDF as 1 pt lines, then there's nothing wrong with Indesign. You can verify this by opening the PDF in Illustrator and checking stroke.
Your monitor is probably 96 pixels per inch. There are 72 pts in an inch, so a half point rule viewed at whatever zoom renders 100% must be made up of 1/144th of 96 pixels or about 2/3 of one pixel. Since your monitor can only display whole pixels it rounds up. Most people want smoothing on, so they don't see blocky curves. Smoothing usually means that the edge pixels get blurred, but the edge of a 1 pixel line *is* that one pixel, so more pixels must be added. So far, we're only talking about B&W. But your monitor is color, and both Acrobat and Indesign make use of color to help out with smoothing (obviously in different ways).
In the end, if it prints correctly, then you're okay. If you're designing for display only, use thicker rules.
Ken

PDF line weight - please help!

Hi,
When I save from InDesign as a PDF any line drawn with the pen tool/circle tool etc stay the same line weight no matter how much I'm zoomed in on the document. For example, I could zoom right out to 25% and the line thickness will still look at the same as at 150%. Is there a setting to change this?
Hope someone can help by the end of today.
Many thanks!
Will

Will sent me a PM because he's having trouble replying in the forum:
Hi, thanks.... but that is a setting in Acrobat.
The designer that I work with says that her InDesign doesn't have this line weight problem (or she has never seen this problem before), so is there a setting that I can change in inDesign?
(I tried to reply on the forum but I keep getting an error... 'You can't post a blank message')
This is not a problem in InDesign, it's a problem in the display in Acrobat (and you are the second person today to post about it). Acrobat is the place you need to be to fix it when viewing the PDF.
As far as your posting problem, are you using the web page editor, or email? Some email clients have issues. If the web page, you need a little patience sometimes for the editor screen to fully load, and then you may need to click inside the editing area to get an active cursor. Hitting Enter with a blank message area would generate that error.

Filling shapes and changing line weights will not show until export.

When I draw a character, i cannot change line weight of fill shapes. When I do so it remains unchanged, however once I export everything is fine and okay.
This image below is how it looks. Even though it is colored.
Once I export I get this
Can someone please help me?

menu/view/outline
or pres command+y

Cell Border Line Weight

I would like to use different Line Weights on spreadsheet cell borders, but no matter what Line Weight I choose from the Accents window, I always get (both visually and printed) the same Line Weight (hairline?) when I set a cell border. Am I missing something?

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Pete

Line weights, dpi in Illustrator to Photoshop illustration work

I'm creating illustrations in Illustrator then importing the line art into Photoshop to add color to the drawings. The client needs 2 versions - first a tif, 3" x 3" then a .gif 225 pixels. They've asked for fairly detailed drawings and I'm finding details getting lost - even at .25 line weight in Illustrator, once in Photoshop they get jaggedy and I lose detail.
Can someone advise on best line weight to use for this situation, and best way to import into Photoshop and keep smoothness of lines. Thanks to all respondents -
Leslie

Any line which isn't truly horizontal or vertical will be jagged in Photoshop. That's the nature of raster images. The further from horizontal or vertical, the closer together the "stair steps" will be, and the more apparent, relative to other lines in the same image.
I'm not sure how Photoshop handles line weights when you import Illustrator art, but I'd guess it calculates how many pixels are required at the current resolution to make that dimension, then rounds to the nearest or next whole pixel.
You didn't say what resolution you are using for the 3 x 3 tiff, but the higher it is (and consequently more pixels and larger file), the better your lines will render. As for the gif, you have what you have, in terms of pixels to use, and the art will be rendered the best possible, but a .25 pt line is pretty small if you are saying that 255 pixels represents more than a few picas.
Peter

How do I set a PDF Export Preset to force a minimum line weight on output?

How do I set a PDF Export Preset to force a minimum line weight on output? I'm currently using one that came from a printer that works great - but I can't seem to find the option when creating one myself. I have some placed Illustrator line art that is built with .25 line thickness and when I have it placed at 20% scale the lines are too thin to see in the PDF output.

There is absolutely no way to force minimum line widths within InDesign itself, certainly not as part of the PDF export process!! And even one writes a script to go through every object within an InDesign document and both validate and fix line widths less than some particular threshold, such a script would be useless against placed artwork, the contents of which are not available for manual or programmatic inspection within InDesign.
Note that one should be exceptionally careful in “fixing” hairlines, especially if you are placing vector artwork at very low magnification. It may actually be OK to let certain lines drop out. After a fixup on some content, you could end up with a messy mass of lines.
- Dov

Line weight problem

When I convert fonts to outline then export from CS5 AI or ID as a PDF I sometimes get distortion in vertical strokes ie. the letter L, where the line weight will appear bolder than the original font.
The PDF will print showing the bolder line weight but if I re-open the same PDF file in Illustrator the line weight is correct. I also occasionally get the same problem in line artwork.
I have Adobe Reader X and I'm working on an XP PC
Hoping someone can help - thanks.

rwl3,
You may have Align to Pixel Grid ticked in the Transform palette. You can see it when the object is selected.
If so, you probably have Align New Objects to Pixel Grid ticked in the Options.
To cure this, you may select everything and untick both.

Signature in PDF appears too heavy (line weight)

Hello,
I have excel documents which need to have an actual signature. I have scanned in my signature and have it as a TIF file amongst others. I have the full Adobe CS3 suite so I have cleaned up the sig in PS and saved it in various formats.
When I import the picture file into excel the signature looks and prints fine, but as soon as I create a PDF the line weight on the signature becomes extremely heavy and it looks awful, both on-screen and printed.
I have used the Save For Web & Devices option to create a transparent GIF from the TIF file and this also results in extremely thick line weights in the PDF only.
If I simply copy and paste the signature in from PS or AI, the line weight is fine both pre/post PDF, however the background is no longer transparent.
I have tried searching for this issue in the forums with no luck so if the answer lies under a topic I have missed I would appreciate being redirected there.
Thanks,
Dave

Hi Mike,
I need the signature to sign off on data that is sent to our clients.
As an update...
We have a couple of tablet PCs here so I have created my signature using one of these. I now have a crisp/clean image of my signature which I have saved as an EPS file. It looks great both pre/post PDF creation.
Attaching the image to a digital signature is definitely something I am going to explore.
I am still curious as to why distilling the scanned signature yields the ultra fat line weights.
Thanks,
Dave

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