Link Aggregation - computer to switch-pair

Hi all,
According to the Mac OS X Server documentation (http://images.apple.com/server/macosx/docs/AdvancedServer_Adminv10.6.pdf, page 165), it is possible to create a "Computer to switch-pair" scenario, to provide a redundant network connection for an Xserve running OS X Server 10.5 or 10.6.
What I would like to set up, is for an Xserve to connect to 2 different switches (using link aggregation as described in the manual), so that if a switch fails, the Xserve retains connectivity (using the same IP address).
Has anyone managed to do this in reality? If so, would you mind telling me how it is configured? Info on how to set this up is non-existent...even a local Apple engineer was unable to help.
If it helps, I'm connecting my Xserves to either: (a) a pair of HP ProCurve 2810-24G switches, or (b) HP ProCurve 8200zl and 5400zl switch
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Cheers,
Dave.

Link aggregation can give you redundancy and greater bandwidth by allowing you to combine Ethernet ports, but the ports must be connected to the same switch. I don't believe there is a way to connect to two different switches using the same IP as technically that would create a loop, which would bring the connection on your Mac to a halt, if not slow down the entire switch.
Switch failure isn't super-common, at least not in my experience, and you're using good switches to begin with. I would create a link if you need more bandwidth to the switch for, say, a fileserver but otherwise, I wouldn't worry about it.
If you do decide to try link aggregating, you need to do two things:
In OS X under Network Prefs go to > (Gear Icon) Manage Virtual Interfaces > New Link Aggregate... and combine your ports there. In the new Network panel created for the new ethernet bond, enter your TCP/IP settings.
In the switch, you need to enable LACP (Link Aggregation Control Protocol) for each port you want to include in the link aggregation. This is usually just a checkbox in the main ports page of the switch admin interface. Many switches don't support link aggregation, so if you can't find it easily, make sure your switch actually includes it.
JM

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          RX bytes:31836352423 (30361.5 Mb)  TX bytes:31997996320 (30515.6 Mb)
    eth4      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1E:68:78:F9:84  
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:6213 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:15477741 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:1290977 (1.2 Mb)  TX bytes:16000747443 (15259.5 Mb)
          Interrupt:246 Base address:0xe000 

eth5      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1E:68:78:F9:84  
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:40437035 errors:442 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:442
          TX packets:15477744 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:31835061446 (30360.2 Mb)  TX bytes:15997248877 (15256.1 Mb)
          Interrupt:247 Base address:0x4000
    Starting the network services shows
     bond0     
    bond0     enslaved interface: eth5
    bond0     enslaved interface: eth4
    bond0     (DHCP) . . IP/Netmask: '192.168.1.198' / '255.255.255.0'
    So it seems that the client side configuration is correct. The bond has been configured with the default mode balance-rr.
    On the switch side, we have grouped the right ports to form LAG groups and have checked LACP on them. Running some trusted TCP benchmarks yields the same results as the original configuration without link aggregation.
    I feel we are missing some configuration on the switch side.
    Can anybody point out what we are doing wrong?
    Thanks,
    K**bleep**ij

    If you think this has been a mis-configuration on the switch side, please try to reset the switch and then re-configure it again. You may also seek assistance with a Cisco/Linksys tech support so that they can guide you step by step at real time.

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