Link master page to paragraph style?

I'd like to have the first page of each chapter have a different master page (particularly no header with page numbers, etc.). I know how to apply a different page style, but I want the style to stay with the first page of each chapter -- even if more text is added and the document gets longer.
Any way to do this?

AlphaSmith wrote:
Peter, I'm not sure what functionality we used in the past -- it's been years now since we stopped using Frame when it was discontinued -- but I didn't have these problems before. Perhaps that's just because the book feature of Frame (chapters in their own files, very easily compiled into a book) was so easy and did just what we needed it to do. Could not get IDs book feature to work well when I tried it. Haven't been back.
I'll also try out the idea you have. Thanks for the input.
There's a faction of ex-FrameMaker-on-Mac users who are gathering signers for their petition to revive FrameMaker on Mac. Search Google for terms like "framemaker mac petition" without quotes.
FrameMaker 7.1, I believe, is the last Mac version. It ran on System 9, or a few earlier releases, and on Classic, the System 9 emulator on Tiger. Yours is the most valid reason I've seen for leaving FrameMaker - it's not on the OS you're committed to. I use Parallels on my Mac to run FrameMaker and other applications in Adobe's Technical Communications Suite which is Windows-only.
Aa Peter S. said, InDesign's book feature is a workable tool. Some folks report problems with cross-file cross-references in InDesign books. I'm not familiar whether they are more common on Windows ID or Mac, and not sure which update-level of CS4 or CS5 they affect. If you're having problems with x-refs, search Google for "InDesign cross-references across files," and similar terms without quotes, and if your issues aren't addressed in the links you find, post them here. One cross-file problem with x-refs in books that I can recall occurs in PDFs exported from InDesign; if the PDF export dialog box uses the Interactive output option, instead of the Print output option, the links in the single PDF that's created fail because the output processing goofs up the links it creates in the PDF. I've reported it as a bug. There were instances in later FrameMaker releases that had a similar problem with the Save As PDF process; fixed later, though.
One ID x-ref issue I've seen on the forum is that lots of them slow down InDesign. I believe the commercial InDesign cross-references plug-in from dtptools.com doesn't have the problem; it's also got smarter x-ref format options than either FrameMaker or InDesign.
I believe that InDesign's indexing isn't easy for FrameMaker users to grasp. It took me a while, partly because I don't do it much, and partly because it's a different mindset. Some earlier releases had bugs that soured folks on the index, but they're fixed. Search Google for terms like "InDesign index scripts" or "InDesign online free index tutorials" and similar terms without quotes for more info.
The span/split columns feature in InDesign CS5 that Peter S. mentions is like FrameMaker's straddle (across columns) paragraphs, with a bit of Word's multi-column paragraph attribute thrown in. It's still got a few annoying behaviors, but not disruptive bugs. However, InDesign totally lacks FrameMaker's true side-headings and true run-in paragraphs (a paragraph that can be followed by a paragraph that begins on the same line; IOW, a paragraph with a hard Return but no new line feed.) There are some workarounds.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
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