Linking 2 Airport Express Stations iMacG4

I am trying to link 2 Express Stations for use with my Cable Internet Connection.
I have a iMac PowerPC G4 without an Airport card...
I configured 1st Express as remote station where computer is connected to...2nd express is by Linksys cable modem and has booted and is on solid green light....
Using WDS I can not locate main station and express connected to computer is flashing amber...
I can not seem to get the sttions to locate each other...I even tried setting them up one room apart thinking it was the distance...
can anyone help setting these two express stations up via WDS network on older iMac G4 with no airport card?
Thanks

Wireless Distribution System (WDS) Setup
Main Base Station Setup
(Note: When you set up base stations in a WDS, you need to know the MAC address of each base station. The MAC address is printed on the label on the bottom of the base station next to the AirPort symbol. To make it easier to set up a WDS, place all of the base stations on a table and plug them into a power supply.)
- Connect to the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as the main base station. (or connected directly, using an Ethernet cable, to the LAN/Ethernet port of the AEBS/AX)
- Open AirPort Admin Utility, select the main base station, and click Configure. Enter the base station password. (The default password is "public.")
- Click the WDS tab.
- Select the “Enable this base station as a WDS” checkbox, and choose “main base station” from the pop-up menu.
- Click Add and enter the MAC address of a base station you want to set up as a remote base station. You can also enter a description for the base station, the base station name, or its location.
- Select “Allow wireless clients on this base station” if you would like wireless client computers as well as base stations to share the connection.
- Click Update to send the new settings to the base stations in the WDS.
(Note: After you click Update, you can give each base station a name and password, and choose how the base station receives IP addresses.)
Relay/Remote Base Station Setup
- Connect to the remote or relay base station network, click WDS and enter the MAC address of the main base station.
- Click Update to send the new settings to the remote or relay base stations.

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