Linux Flash Player woes with hardware acceleration
I am trying to get hardware accelerated Youtube video on my Ubuntu 10.04 box. There is nothing unusual about the hardware: Intel C2D, 945G chipset, and nVidia GT210 graphics. (also tried 9600GT and GT440 without success). The OS, nVidia driver, and libvdpau have been kept up-to-date thru Update Manager and Synaptic . But among Flash Player 10.3, 11.0, 11.1, and 11.2 beta that I have tried, none can work consistently with video rendering and video decoding enabled by having "EnableLinuxHWVideodecode=1" to /etc/adobe/mms.cfg. It doesn't matter which version of Firefox I use, or whether the libflashplayer.so is placed in local plugins directory or global.
- Flash Player 10.3 is perfect until it reaches the end of the clip. Click on Replay at that time, the player rewinds and starts to play. But there is only audio. The video window becomes solid black.
- Flash Player 11.0 and 11.1 have no accelerated video rendering until I go full screen. Once with accelerated rendering, they have the same problem with replay as 10.3.
- Flash Player 11.2 beta crashes frequently when I switch video size from the default 360p to something else, or change player mode from default small player to full screen.
11.2 beta seems to be free from the replay issue. But I cannot try enough videos to be certain because usualy it crashes before reaching the end of clips. As 10.3, 11.0, and maybe even 11.1 are already legacy, my only hope is Adobe can make the 11.2 stable for Linux before it is locked down for release. Am I alone on this or there are other Linux users out there having similar problems?
Thanks
Hi Alex1113,
Thanks for your reply and filing of bug 3077372. I searched the BugBase and found another recent report (https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3075575) on 11.2_p3 crash. It happens when switching to "Larger Player" video size. Since I have seen both types of problems, I voted for both ID 3077372 and 3075575 with comments instead of filing duplicated reports.
To others,
The crash seems to be rather gneric. So far it has been reported for Fedora 14, Ubuntu 10.04, Ubuntu 11.10, 32-bit, and 64-bit. I believe it should happen to other configurations with both hardware render and decoding enabled. Please add your votes to raise the priorities of those bugs. Hopefully we will draw enough attention to have them fixed in the next beta.
Thanks,
Franklin
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now) which was
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