Lion for classical mac users

I have a question about using Lion in a "classical" setting. What I mean is this. I don't have an iphone, don't use iTunes, haven't visited the App store. I have nothing against these things, they are just not in my ecosystem. I am a power user who does CAD, spreadsheets, some iPhoto catalogging of pictures, occasional picture editing in Gimp (since my G5 copy of PS aged out).
My question is this. Will Lion be as usable for a non touch user as Snow Leopard?

>My real question is "what is in Lion for the user who doesn't/can't do the latest 'touch' stuff". Is it faster, smaller, more powerful doing the ordinary things?
From the appearances Lion has some features that will certainly appeal to non-multitouch people as well:
1. The ability to copy/paste from one revision of a document to another changes that were lost to a previous editing.
2. The ability to manage window size from more than just one corner.
3. Mission control gives tighter integration of applications and windows with the old Spaces feature.
4. The launcher makes launching applications and folders as simple as the iPad. The rebirth of the old Mac OS 9 Launcher as far as I can tell. Yes, third party utilities have supported this feature since Mac OS 9 stopped being available, but some may find it easier to use.
5. Full screen applications.
6. Easier application switching and window switching.
7. Better accessibility features for hearing and sight impaired.
8. Tighter integration with internet social networking sites.
9. Easier file network sharing.
10. Auto-save across the board, and not just for applications which support it.
11. Full Disk encryption with File Vault. I still caution against this, in event your data should ever get corrupted that makes the encryption possible. A physical backup in a secure location is still better.
12. More sorting features for Finder files. 13. Auto launching of last state of the machine before shut down.
And much more you can read about here:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html

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Hi everyone: I purchased my first Mac (a MacBook Pro) about a month back and shortly thereafter upgraded to Lion for free through the apps store. Since then, using/navigating the new Mac has been somewhat challenging for me and I'm not yet comfortable with using it for all of my computing needs. (I have an old Toshiba that is still my go-to computer--for the moment.) I suspect that part of my challenges stem from being a new Mac user (irrespective of the particular OS) after years of using PCs, but I do wonder if they may also relate to OS Lion, which seems to have complicated the user experience. I was hoping that using a Mac would be more intuitive and simple than it seems to have been thus far.
With that in mind, might there be some utility in me reinstalling Snow Leopard (and if so how?) in order to become more used to the new Mac experience before permanently switching to Lion? If I do, would I be able to, down the road, resintall Lion for free?
I recognize that this suggestion would involve some learning curve redundancy (learning the Mac on Snow Leopard and eventually re-learning it with Lion). However, I have a sense that reverting back to Snow Leopard might ease my transition into the new Mac experience. Either way, I'm looking forward to eventually tossing out that Toshiba!
Thanks for any/all thoughts. Best, DC

If you want to downgrade to Snow Leopard then do the following:
Downgrade Lion to Snow Leopard
1. Boot from your Snow Leopard Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu.
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
4. Quit DU and return to the installer. Install Snow Leopard.
This will erase the whole drive so be sure to backup your files if you don't have a backup already. If you have performed a TM backup using Lion be aware that you cannot restore from that backup in Snow Leopard (see below.) I suggest you make a separate backup using Carbon Copy Cloner 3.4.1.
If you have Snow Leopard Time Machine backups, do a full system restore per #14 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions. If you have subsequent backups from Lion, you can restore newer items selectively, via the "Star Wars" display, per #15 there, but be careful; some Snow Leopard apps may not work with the Lion files.
However, there isn't that much difference between Snow Leopard and Lion that using Snow Leopard would prove easier to learn. There are lots of tutorials available at the Apple website to help you learn how to use a Mac. You might start with Apple - Support - Mac 101 and Apple - Support - Switch 101. And, for Lion see About MacOS X.

I participated in getting the free download of Mountain Lion for new Mac owners. It took me three days to finally get a code to do it and when I tried downloading it, the estimated time was 74 days 17 hours. Now an error occurred. What do I do?

I participated in getting the free download of Mountain Lion for new Mac owners. It took me three days to finally get a code to do it and when I tried downloading it, the estimated time was 74 days 17 hours. Now an error occurred. What do I do? I am very frustrated and just want the great software to download in a resonalbe time!

Take your Mac to a location with a fast, relaible Internet connection that will be all yours during the duration of the download.
If you want to complain, PLEASE call Apple and do so.
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Hi There: I am having a problem where pdf files on the web (i.e., links in a Word doc) open after an extended time and only as gobbldygook ( a file containing a series of characters and letters that make no sense). This also happens for another Mac user coworker in my office, while the PCs don't have this problem... Any help/suggestions for a fix would be most appreciated!

Just adding more info - MacBookPro running 10.5.8 and using Safari as the browser. The problem comes and goes - sometimes the linked Word files will open OK, n others its just a strring of crazy characters...

Can I burn photos onto a DVD/CD for non-Mac users?

Can I burn photos onto a DVD/CD for non-Mac users?

You can burn a plain CD/DVD by just dragging the photos there; but, that may or may not be playable by everyone. To be sure that the result would be playable in any computer or CD/DVD player, it would be better to use either one of the apps already on your system - such as iPhoto. I don't use that myself - I use other third party software - but take a look at iPhoto help. And, you could make it more interesting by creating a slideshow - also in iPhoto, or iMovie. To give it the final cool touch, bring it into iDVD to give it a polished look if you'd like. You can burn it then from any of the above.
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HT201272 hi i bouth lion for my mac but i had to restrat my mac and it was all lost do you know how i get this back

hi i bouth lion for my mac but i had to restrat my mac and it was all lost do you know how i get this back

Hi..
Better to post our topic in the Lion forum here.
This is the iTunes Store forum.

Do I need to buy a separate download of Mountain Lion for each Mac that I own?

Do I need to buy a separate download of Mountain Lion for each Mac that I own?

No, not if you bought it as an upgrade option.
Mountain Lion multi-computer installation license discussion - https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4142823
http://osxdaily.com/2012/07/26/install-upgrade-os-x-mountain-lion-multiple-macs/

Trying to download lion for my mac, i get as far as show billing info and nothing happens, what can i do??

trying to download lion for my mac, i get as far as show billing info and nothing happens, what can i do??

Capetowncrooner I would recommend utilizing a different web browser or beginning the installation process within the Creative Cloud Desktop application. You can find more details at Install and update apps - https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/help/install-apps.html.

Is iCloud useful for single Mac user?

Hi, I have recently upgraded to Mountain Lion and have a question about the iCloud. Many of the advantages of Mountain Lion seem to be connected to iCloud and iCloud seems to be beneficial to those who have multiple Mac devices, so I was wondering if there were any advatages to setting up iCloud if you were (like me) a single Mac user? I had the opportunity of setting up iCloud with the Lion O/S but I didn't bother for the same reason. I would appreciate a little feedback from anyone who can either confirm its usefulness or otherwise to a single Mac user. Thanks so much,

ICloud is predominately for users of multiple Mac and/or iDevices.
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Why can't Apple make 'publish changes only' for non .mac users?

The recent iWeb update to 1.1 and the now increasingly obvious differential between .mac and non .mac features has prompted me to post here today.
I can understand comments, passwords and search facilities being a .mac only experience because it requires server side technology. I can also understand that .mac users get enhanced features like slideshows as well.
But why is the fundamentally *basic* option to 'publish the changes only' not available to non .mac users?
I know uploading to .mac uses a different protocol to uploading via FTP, but I don't think it is about that. Obviously the software engine in iWeb 1.1 can now track the pages that have changed, and flag those for uploading. So if the facility to do this is not available with non .mac uploading, is this some form of crippleware? Can any software engineers comment on this or am I talking off the top of my head? [And please mods, don't delete this post - I use the word 'crippleware' in its harshest form, clearly I can still use iWeb to make fantastic websites - I am asking a technical question here.]
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A Trusty Quicksilver G4 Dual 1GHz

OK, from reading this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=486335&tstart=0
There is a pattern: An error occurred while publishing file “/blah/blah", while file "/blah/blah" seems to be random from one person to the next, but they all share one thing and that is communication protocol.
For iWeb to be able to publish changes to .Mac, it has to:
1. identify if the file exists
2. do the following:
2a. if not exists, copy it to .Mac
2b. if exist, do some sort comparison - CRC checksum -
2b1. if checksums match, don't copy
2b2. if checksums don't match copy it to .Mac
At least I think that's what going on, I don't have .Mac so that is best I can think of. Perhaps, some Apple SW engineers can jump in here.
Now, the bad part is iWeb has to (and I'm assuming iWeb uses WebDAV):
1. go thru each file locally
2. crawl its way into .Mac (WebDAV is a slow protocol) to find the the counter part.
3. when it finds a file that matches a client side file, it has to (some how) do checksum on-the-fly across the net work (which is slow and congested)
#3 is I think where it failed, there are many factors here: 1) networks congestion 2) latency 3) protocol overhead 4) checksum calculation time etc...
iWeb eventually times out because any/all of the above.
It's nice that WebDAV can author to the host yada, yada, but it's so SLOOOOOW.
What I would do is for every publishing, I would build a files and their checksums keep it on the host (or local, must be hidden).
For subsequence publishing, I would (use a fast protocol like FTP) download this pre-built files/checksums list. Locally, do a full publishing, making checksum comparison, the result is delta changes; upload only those. Build a new files/checksums list upload that too.
What I mean to say is offload everything that is possible to local machine, bandwidth is PREMIUM!

Mac osx Lion for more macs

I have two macs one have been supplied with Mac osx Lion and the other is some month older and has Snow Leopard installed. May I use the my new macbook with lion to install lion on the other and how it works?

You can re download Lion to the other Mac for free. Just make sure and use the same Apple ID.
Downloading past purchases from the App Store, iBookstore, and iTunes Store
Install Lion on multiple Macs alternatives > http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/21/install-mac-os-x-lion-multiple-macs/
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Looking for Classic Mac OS QuickTime 6.0.2 Full Install

Hello:
I would like to finally resolve a problem I've had for several years. When I upgraded to QuickTime 6.0.3 a couple of .avi files which played fine with QuickTime 6.0.2 do not work correctly. About 30 seconds into the clips, the video stops. Audio continues fine. I am also unable to convert the files to another format because of a "compression error." Since I know these files worked when I had QT 6.0.2 I would like to downgrade so I can convert the files.
I've looked for a long time, but have been unable to find the Classic Mac OS QT 6.0.2 Full Install file anywhere. Does someone have this? Of course this would be the one file that I do not have a backup.
TIA!

The name of the Apple downloads file for QT 6.0.2 was probably something very close to this:
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Have you tried searching among those old legacy file downloads on the Apple downloads? I know they are sometimes hard to find and reasonable searches using the Apple search often gets one no where. You might try googling for the old quicktime and get into the Apple downloads through the "back door" so to speak.

SSD Blade Drive for "Classic" Mac Pro

Repost of earlier thread.
PCIe-SSD which surpass SATA III speeds can mean a lot, and for a 1,1 is the only way to boot from PCIe (whether SATA III or not).
http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/harddrives/index.html#d17feb2015
Samsung XP941 256GB PCIe 2.0 x4 M.2 SSD MZHPU256HCGL
M.2 Interface: PCIe Gen2 5Gb/s, up to 4 lanes
512MB LPDDR2 DRAM Buffer Memory
Support TRIM Command
Sequential Read: 1080MB/s, Sequential Write: 800 MB/s,
Random Read (QD=32): 120K IOPS, Random Write (QD=32): 60K IOPS
Works with (all) Mac Pro. Not compatible with the MacBook Air or Retina MacBook Pro
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-XP941-256GB-PCIe-MZHPU256HCGL/dp/B00J9V53M6/
A smaller XP941 128GB that 'only' gets 450MB/sec writes instead of the 800-900MB/sec
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Lycom DT-120 M.2 PCIe to PCIe 3.0 x4 Adapter (Support M.2 PCIe 2280, 2260, 2242)
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http://barefeats.com/hard183.html
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http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/08/samsung-sm941-pcie-ssd/
Next generation from Samsung:
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150106006600/en/Samsung-Electronics-Mass -Producing-Extremely-Fast-Low-powered#.VOO5NoI5CUk

RAM City http://www.ramcity.com.au
Provides support and adapters for use with various M.2 blade SSD drives
Samsung XP941 512GB M.2 PCIe x4 80mm SSD
Quote:
When combined with a M.2 to PCIe adapter, the Samsung XP941 provides class-leading storage performance in desktop machines and is also fully bootable in all cMP Mac Pro models (2006-2012, excluding the 'tube' model). See the table at the bottom of this page for approximate throughput figures.
* * * W A R N I N G * * * *
Do not run Parted Magic's secure erase on this drive. It will render it useless and void the warranty.
Secure Erase will brick the XP941.
https://www.ramcity.com.au/blog/how-to-install-windows-8.1-on-the-samsung-xp941- ss/138296
To use this SSD in a desktop machine or cMP Mac Pro (all 2006-2012 models prior to the current cylindrical shaped one), you will need a free PCIe slot, and an M.2 to PCIe adapter. Booting is supported in the Mac Pro.
Note, system boot on Windows desktop PC's is only supported on certain Z97 and X99 chipset-based motherboards with built-in M.2 sockets. Booting with the XP941 is not currently supported in a Windows PC with the XP941 drive in conjunction with the adapter , but it works perfectly without drivers as a storage drive.
Review our M.2 SSD compatibility list blog post if you are not sure if this drive is compatible in your machine.
You might also need....
A M.2 (NGFF) to PCIe adapter card - so you can install this drive in a standard desktop case or Mac Pro tower computer.
A PCIE M.2 SSD to USB 3.0 external enclosure - so you can clone, copy, or retrieve data from this drive or an existing one already in your system.
* To achieve maximum throughput in the 2008 Mac Pro, one or two of the PCIe 2.0 x16 slots must be used. These models have two x16 PCIe 2.0 slots and two x4 PCIe 1.0 slots. The latter PCIe 1.0 slots will only allow up to 585-753MB/s data transfer rates.
Data Throughput Rates
Throughput rates are provided in the table below. See the performance notes regarding slower PCIe 2.0 x2 and PCIe 1.0 slots
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https://www.ramcity.com.au/buy/samsung-xp941-512gb-m.2-pcie-x4-80mm-ssd/MZHPU512 HCGL-00000
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Samsung XP941 512GB M.2 PCIe x4 80mm SSD
https://www.ramcity.com.au/blog/how-to-clone-an-existing-drive-to-a-new-ssd/1382 97
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Hi guys. Brand new to Apple computers as I got a "defective" G4 from my neighbor. He was going to throw it away but I told him I would try to fix it first.
When I power it up, it makes a musical "greeting" power up sound and the monitor goes from dark black (as in "off") to a lighter gray, and then a folder appears in the middle of the screen alternating between a face and a question mark.
Does anyone know what is wrong with this computer so that I can repair it for future use? I am guessing a hard drive malfunction, but do not know for sure. And is it worth fixing? FYI - I do not have any software for this system.
Thanks for any help you can provide!
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A 160g hard drive would run you about $70, while OS X would run about $120.
It would be great to borrow a copy of the os installation disk and boot from it to see if the computer has further problems. Do you know any other mac users? It would also allow you to see how much ram is in the machine (OS X likes ram) and that may be a further expense if you need more.
What are you going to use the machine for? That's the main question as to how much you should spend to fix the machine up. I don't know if it would be fast enough for you as an everyday computer, but internet use, word processing, ITunes, IPhoto would all work just fine. You won't be doing any gaming or heavy duty video processing.
I'd talk to them at the Apple Store, explain the situation, maybe they might be able to help given the situation. They've got a chance here to nab a new mac user, I'd think that may help your case.

HT5364 I have just downloaded ox lion for my Mac which is only 2 years ish old as it couldn't support safari/fire fox etc without it. Now I still can't download safari...any ideas??

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