Lion is slow--s/b turtle?

Lion is SLOOWW after upgrade from Snow Leopard! Things that used to take place quickly such as opening files, or opening a file-selector box, now take a seeming eternity. Even turning to a new sheet in Numbers makes you wait a while.

Only if you don't run Time Machine after you delete the item. You need at least two copies of all data at all times. You might as well make a clone of your Time Machine, and a clone of what you have on your system now. Time Machine is good for archival storage as long as you don't run out of space on its destination. Once you do, it recrusively gets rid of the alternating backups it doesn't think it needs. Cloning on the other hand makes sure you get an exact copy of the original as it stands, and is always an exact copy of the original at the time the backup is made. Thus if you delete something, it is gone from the clone at the next backup. You can burn off archives from the Time Machine to DVD, or copy to another hard drive as long as Time Machine is not connected to that hard drive at the time. Your Time Machine Apple menu -> System Preferences can control when Time Machine is active and when it is not.
http://www.libreoffice.org/ or http://www.openoffice.org/ are good alternatives to Microsoft office.
Garageband does have an update for Mac OS X 10.7 that doesn't cost thta much.
But yes, your hard drive has way less space than you need. Your hard drive should be no more than 85% of capacity.
And Spotlight is the menu for searching in the upper right. If it says it is indexing it is indexing. Otherwise it is not a problem. If it is indexing, wait for it to finish before using your computer for anything but checking on it.
Permissions are repaired through first aid in Disk Utility which is in Applications -> Utilities.

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I have seen so much response about the Mountain Lion update slowing down computers. I am updating from Mac OS x 10.6.8. What can I do to ensure the upgrade will go fine? Do I unplug my external hard drive before installing, or keep it plugged in?

I have seen so much response about the Mountain Lion update slowing down computers. I am updating from Mac OS x 10.6.8. What can I do to ensure the upgrade will go fine? Do I unplug my external hard drive before installing, or keep it plugged in?
Also, I have the 08 version of iWork. Will this cause problems for the update? Can I update this AFTER I update the processor?

Welcome to Apple Support Communities
There's no reason to think that Mountain Lion will slow down your Mac. Just make a backup of your data before upgrading with Time Machine > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1427
Also, check that your apps are compatible > http://www.roaringapps.com Upgrade them to a compatible version or delete them before upgrading.
The external drive won't make the OS X Mountain Lion installer fail, but it's better to unplug it during the upgrade.
iWork '08 is compatible with Mountain Lion. iWork '09 includes OS X Mountain Lion features and can be purchased at the Mac App Store.
To upgrade to OS X Mountain Lion, I recommend at least 4 GB of RAM. You can check how much memory you have in Apple menu > About this Mac

Lion very slow starting apps with Firewire 800 drive mounted. Any ideas?

Lion very slow starting apps with Firewire 800 drive mounted.
When my Firewire 800 drive is in sleep mode, when I start up an app like MS Excel or Addressbook. I get a spining wheel and a delay before the app launches. Any ideas? Never happened in 10.6.

Long shot: What format is the drive?
Regards
TD

I have a macbook, and have heard mountain lion will slow it way down

I have heard upgrading to Mountain Lion will slow my macbook down. True or false

I have the newest Mac Mini with 8GB memory and I'm still experiencing a considerable slow down in most processes since upgrading to Mountain Lion, especially when browsing. I feel like I'm back in the old PC days.
So at least in my case, memory is not the answer. 8GB should be plenty. Any other pointers to increase speed would be appreciated.

Is the softcopy download of lion ultra slow?!

I am preparing to move to the cloud and downloading the lion soft copy, and wow, is it always this slow? was sunday morning a bad time to choose to do this?!

Is the softcopy download of lion ultra slow?!
Yes.
was sunday morning a bad time to choose to do this?!
Anytime is a bad time
Actually, it's only 6:45 A here, remember folks are on all different times.

Why does Lion seem slower than Snow Leppard?

Why does Lion seem slower than Snow Leppard?

michaelfromrice lake wrote:
Why does Lion seem slower than Snow Leppard?
It's anyone's guess. Startup and shutdown as well as application launches take longer in Lion than they did in Snow Leopard on the three Macs that I "upgraded," and I also see the spinning beach ball more often than I used to. Add to that the HDMI-related crashes on my Mac mini...
Quite frankly, I have yet to see where I have gained any advantages after upgrading to Lion, and I definititely have problems that I didn't have under Snow Leopard. Of course, all of it must be my fault, as Apple would never ever relase an upgrade that was less than perfect.

Any one else notice Mountain Lion very slow...feel like I am back on a PC !!!

Any one else notice Mountain Lion very slow...feel like I am back on a PC !!! Open files, programs, rebooting, even shutting down takes longer. Am I the only one?

Must have been bad hardware would be my guess. That's the problem with vendors though. Windows really isn't the issue if you have the right hardware. It's like a Mac, really.
The problem is that PC vendors have a tendency to rush their machines out with bad chipsets and a mish-mash of conflicting hardware. Take Vista for example. Besides the fact that it was a resource hog out of the box, there was really nothing wrong with it.
Vendors on the other hand, rushed their PCs out without the proper hardware to run it in order to sell, sell, sell, which is what gave it a bad name. So yeah, people had issues. It also suffered the same issues as Lion and ML right now due to the fact that it wouldn't run on older machines and there was an uproar in the online community--sounds familiar enough to me.
Oddly enough, even macs are running at the same specs as Windows today.
The majority of issues people tend to have is more with their PCs than with Windows and they have a tendency to blame Windows because of this without realising that MS develops software; not hardware (xbox aside). Whereas Apple develops both.
Millenium was terrible though--I won't deny that.
OSX may appear to work better, but that's because everything is designed to work together and we pay a premium for it because of the quality control on the machine. I can't help but feel that Apple takes a little more pride in their machines then PC Vendors do. In fact, Windows probably runs better on my Macbook Pro than it does on my PCs. I use it for very little these days though. I happen to like OSX and I'm addicted to the App Store.
Basically, my whole outlook on the two is that MS is a people pleaser, they try to appeal to everybody and a plethora of PC configurations. It suffers because of this. Apple is a little more arrogant (but in a good way). They stick to their own configurations and don't worry about being everybody's machine. They take pride in their designs and configurations and they succeed because of this. It also allows them to take bolder steps.
Neither is perfect and both have their strengths and weaknesses. Though I feel that Windows is often picked on for the wrong reasons, just as Mac users are often picked on by the PC community. It all boils down to a lack of understanding since Macs don't only appeal to the dumb and Windows does work quite well if you have the right configuration. No insult implied--it's just the common outlook from both communities and it irks me on both sides.

Cant download LION on slow internet. Starts over after disconnection.

Currently deployed to Africa with USAF. Hard drive crashed on old white macbook. Installed new drive and reinstalled original Snow Leopard. Fully updated all software.
Went to app store to download Lion. I can download approx 1 GB per day on slow internet. Each time my laptop is disconnected from the internet and I reconnect later, Lion starts its download from ZERO.
I "pause" it and it says "780mb downloaded" etc.... I come back the next day and it starts all over again from zero bytes.
Help!
I wouldn,t care so much being stuck with Snow Leopard, except my personal USB drive is encrypted with Lion so I cant access it right now.
-Bryan

Ok, after some more mucking about I have made some progress. By changing MTU to 100 I can get pages to load, albeit slowly. At least now I can post about this from my main box ;-).
I have noticed the following things:
- With MTU 100 pages load, but my adsl broadband is about as slow as an old modem. I get about 1Kbps on ftp downloads. After ~200K the transfer stalls.
- When using aMule i notice that my eth0 monitor (in superkaramba) indicates outward traffic of about 20 Kbps, eventhough aMule itself only indicates 5Kbps being transferred.
- When I ping my router by doing "ping 192.168.0.1" I have about 10% packet loss. This does not happen on my laptop.
So, I'm stuck with the following questions:
- Why does my internet grind to a halt when I use MTU>1000?
- Why do my downloads halt after ~100K?
- Where do I start looking for differences in my LAPTOP setup, which works fine, and my MAIN BOX, which does not?

Mountain Lion way slower than SL?

Everything is slower. Opening windows, scrolling, expanding folders to show contents in list view, etc. I'm running a 2009 mbp, 4gb ram, 7200 RPM 500 GB HD (mostly empty), 3.06 ghz Duo 2 processor. Is my machine just not powerful enough to run it? I'm thinking of going back to SL and eating a loss of $19 plus my time spent upgrading..

I too am very disappointed with Mountain Lion on my new MacBook Pro. Everything runs so slowly compared to my previous MacBook Pro running Snow Leopard.
When I launch Mail for example, I wait as long as 2 minutes to see my income mail in the viewer window. Even when I can see the mail coming in (in the little pop-up), I cannot see that piece of mail in my viewer window, sometimes until 5-10 minutes later.
I work at a company that has purchased literally 100s of Macintoshes, and my IT department has never seen anything like this. It's crazy.
Terrible operating system. I hope someone has a solution. What a waste of money. Oh, yes, and it is always indexing, yet never finding anything.
I had my IT guy look over my shoulder as a witness: Even when I enter the exact file name into spotlight it cannot find the file. Sometimes even the Finder cannot.
I would not recommend this to anyone.

Macbook Pro Running Lion - Very Slow

Hello,
I have a Macbook Pro (see specs below). I upgraded to Lion and ever since have had extremely slow processing speeds. This includes simple menu navigation, internet, startup/down - pretty much everything.
Do I need more RAM? I see that many in this forum have reported similar issues but there does not seem to be a consensus on the problem.
Any help would be much appreciated. I do not even want to use it at this point and pretty much only use my iPad now - rendering the MBP a $2,000 silvertone paperweight.
Model Name:
MacBook Pro
Model Identifier:
MacBookPro5,1
Processor Name:
Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed:
2.4 GHz
Number of Processors:
1
Total Number of Cores:
2
L2 Cache:
3 MB
Memory:
2 GB
Bus Speed:
1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version:
MBP51.007E.B05
SMC Version (system):
1.33f8
Hardware UUID:
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State:
Enabled

All Adobe CS programs, whether CS 2 to 5, use, Need, a lot of memory and like to have a lot of free disk space for scratch disks.
Could be your hard drive is filling up. Could be you need more memory. Could be your computer is getting hot and or not cooling as well as it use to. Or all of the above to one point or another.
Have you restarted the computer lately?

Mountain Lion extremly slow on Macbook Pro

Upgraded from Snow Leopard to OS X Mountain Lion yesterday and Having god awful performance issues. the wheel of death is always running.
After Upgrading everything runs so slow. every app is very slow. I have deleted apps I dont need, Ran a disk Utility verify and repair, turned off all notifications.
reset memory by holding down apple, function p and r keys.
what else can i do.

Look at Thomas A Reed's Understanding Upgrade Nightmares article http://www.reedcorner.net/understanding-upgrade-nightmares/ and make sure all apps are compatible with Mountain Lion by using www.roaringapps.com. Using both of these you should be able to diagnose your individual problem and get i fixed.

Mountain Lion and Lion very slow on Macbook 13' 2010 Middle

The problem is the Mountain Lion and Lion very very slow, but Snow Leopard was fast.
The Lion bit faster, the Mountain Lion is much slower.
Animations are choppy and slow, but sometimes fast, but mostly random stuttering. If i have multiple windows opened, the Misson Control is very slow and useless. I think the system UI framerate is low (about 10-15 FPS)
Overall, the system response is very slow, and lagging.
I tried to clean dinstall several times, but this didn't help me.
I know that the new system is slower on older machines, but it would not be so necessary. This Machine is good machine, and i think this is enought for Mountain Lion. Will Apple fix this slow issue soon (maybe 10.8.3), or stay in this state?
At current state of the system is unusable due to the slowness.
Or is it a non official solution to fix this?
Thanks for your answers.

How much RAM do you have installed? 4 GB RAM is generally recommended as a reasonable minimum since kernel_task (part of system) consumes up to 1 GB; my browser consumes another 500 MB or so. So, if you like to multi-task and have several things open, then you will need to increase your RAM. This problem will not be fixed; I sent in a bug report and the reply was that this is how it is intended - 64 bit addressing consumes far more resources than 32 bit (Snow Leopard).
You'll need to look at your processes in Activity Monitor, quit some apps while working on others that are CPU intensive, and increase the RAM if possible.

Mountain Lion Very Slow on Mac Pro 3,1 (2008 model)

The Mac Pro 3,1 is supposed to support Mountain Lion, but when I run it, the GPU (ATI Radeon HD 2600 that came with it) makes a constant, loud fan noise as if it is working hard, and all of the graphics lag badly. I've installed all of the updates. Is there some driver problem between the Radeon HD 2600 and Mountain Lion? People on MacRumors said that it works fine on a Mac Pro 3,1 except for one guy who said it was really slow. Snow Leopard runs great on my machine.

First, back up all data immediately, as your boot drive might be failing.
There are a few other possible causes of generalized slow performance that you can rule out easily.
Reset the System Management Controller.
If you have many image or video files on the Desktop with preview icons, move them to another folder.
If applicable, uncheck all boxes in the iCloud preference pane.
Disconnect all non-essential wired peripherals and remove aftermarket expansion cards, if any.
Check your keychains in Keychain Access for excessively duplicated items.
Boot into Recovery mode, launch Disk Utility, and run Repair Disk.
Otherwise, take the steps below when you notice the problem.
Step 1
Launch the Activity Monitor application in any of the following ways:
☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Activity Monitor in the icon grid.
Select the CPU tab of the Activity Monitor window.
Select All Processes from the menu in the toolbar, if not already selected.
Click the heading of the % CPU column in the process table to sort the entries by CPU usage. You may have to click it twice to get the highest value at the top. What is it, and what is the process? Also post the values for % User, % System, and % Idle at the bottom of the window.
Select the System Memory tab. What values are shown in the bottom part of the window for Page outs and Swap used?
Next, select the Disk Activity tab. Post the approximate values shown for Reads in/sec and Writes out/sec (not Reads in and Writes out.)
Step 2
If you have more than one user account, you must be logged in as an administrator to carry out this step.
Launch the Console application in the same way you launched Activity Monitor. Make sure the title of the Console window is All Messages. If it isn't, select All Messages from the SYSTEM LOG QUERIES menu on the left. If you don't see that menu, select
View ▹ Show Log List
from the menu bar.
Select the 50 or so most recent entries in the log. Copy them to the Clipboard (command-C). Paste into a reply to this message (command-V). You're looking for entries at the end of the log, not at the beginning.
When posting a log extract, be selective. Don't post more than is requested.
Please do not indiscriminately dump thousands of lines from the log into this discussion.
Important: Some personal information, such as your name, may appear in the log. Anonymize before posting. That should be easy to do if your extract is not too long.

Mountain Lion OSX slow response after upgrade from Lion

I have issues now to open Microsift Outlook Mail application as it is very slow in opening and all this is after install OSX ML only, frustrating time again

Nilhan, I believe I found my problem which affected two machines running ML 10.8. I found two Outlook preferences files - identical but for date - that I believe were causing a conflict.
It was intuition that led me to search for this. I noticed the splash screen text was mentioning that Outlook was looking for identities on startup. I'd never before noticed this, or it happened so quickly that I've never seen it. In any event, I did a search for all files name "outlook" using the program EasyFind. When the search completed, I sorted the found files by type. I was looking for duplicate preferences - and I found them.
There were two folders named "Office 2011." One was in (user) > Library > Preferences > Microsoft. The other was in (user) > Library > Application Support > Microsoft > Office > Preferences. These two identically named folders each had similar items enclosed, including a file named "Outlook Preferences." The dates on the "Outlook Preferences" files were not the same, although they were the same size. The date on the older file corresponds to a Microsoft Office update which was supposed to move things to locations required by Mountain Lion. The older files (some of the file dates were current - yet duplicates in name of others) were in the location: (user) > Library > Preferences > Microsoft.
I moved the "Office 2011" folder located in (user) > Library > Preferences > Microsoft to the trash. I did not empty the trash just out of caution, although I probably will ...or even archive them via a zip file, etc. Next, I restarted my machine. After logging in, I rebuilt the Outlook database using Microsoft Database Utility (hold the Option key and start Outlook to start it). I then backed up my Main Identity to a separate disk as another caution. Next, I once again restarted.
After giving the machine a little time to settle down, I opened Outlook 2011. Outlook now opened many times faster then before. I would venture to say that it is now opening as quickly as before the 10.8 ML install. All functions within Outlook also seem to be at normal speed.
This process was repeated on another Mac with a new install of 10.8 ML and Office 2011. I had tested Outlook on that machine, and it was slow. After the deletion of the duplicate preference files, Outlook was fast as ever - noticeably very fast. It was a vast difference on that machine. The Main Identity database is much smaller on that machine than the previous machine, so it should be quicker. Still, it was a tremendous difference in speed after I dumped the older preferences on it.
I am no expert on the workings of 10.8 ML compared to earlier versions of OS X, but I do understand that certain preference files are now required to be in a certain place ...different than earlier versions, or perhaps just mandating that all preference files be in a universal spot. Something like that... In any event, 10.8 ML was not the problem, but seems to have brought a problem to light. If I am going to point a finger, I will point it at a Microsoft Office update that didn't quite do its job correctly. There was trouble with an Office update not long ago, and I suspect I was a victim of that.
Maybe you are, too. Hope this helps.

Mountain lion update slowed down my macbook pro

hey guys,
I just updated to mountain lion
however, after the installation, my macbook pro has been noticably slow.
slow booting, slow when operating installed programs, chrome/safari got slowed down as well.
Also it freezes for couple of seconds and i was wondering why.
If any of u r experiencing same problems or know how to fix it please kindly let me know!
Thank you!

Have tried everything possible, repairing permissions etc to no avail.
You haven't tried everything possible or you would have a solution. If you tried the most extreme possible solution (erasing the hard drive, then reinstalling the system and nothing else) and still had the same problems, you would have discovered that you almost certainly have a hardware problem. For some solutions that you haven't tried yet, I'll refer you to the same two links I referred sylee48 to.
As for that article, that's an extremely unprofessional piece of writing. They publish - as if they were fact - the conclusions of untrained, non-technical users who do not have the necessary expertise to make such conclusions. And they concluded that these were bugs that Apple should be working on.
In fact, this may be one of the smoothest upgrades I've seen in a while. (Boy-oh-boy, you should have seen the screaming here for the Snow Leopard and Lion upgrades! It's positively peaceful in this forum compared to that.)

Lion is slow--s/b turtle?

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