Lion server, basic questions

HI,
I have three questions :
1. If I install Lion server on my desktop iMac, can I exchange files or document from my Macbook Por from my school. Before I was ablle to do it in ftp, now how is it work ?
2. Is my Time Capsule is sufficient for routeur ? I mean, do I have to put my Time Capsule in bridge position and get a linksys routeur for example for controll the passage to my iMac ?
3. I my network, I have a G4 on OSX 10.4, will it be yet possible to acess to my iMac in server mode for it, and will it be posible to access to the G4 from my iMac on Lion server ?
Thanks,
Claude

Thanks for quick response. Indeed, in hindsight, it appears that they had only installed the Server App, but not the Server Admin tools.
Unfortunately, I am not a system admin, but I played one on TV <grin>
All kidding aside ... I'm willing to learn, but would need most of the basics controlled through the GUI ... and then feel comfortable reading up and editting configuration files and running commands from the Terminal.
On this line, is there good documentation of this, or is this something that you know because you are familiar with Unix? ie something like the alternate port issue ... is this something in the GUI, or something I would have to edit via Terminal?
Just trying to make an informed decision before jumping platforms.
Thanks
David

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Eduardo
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iToaster wrote:
most osx server issues are usually DNS problems
if that is not correct practically nothing else will work correctly
That's probably true but also within that lies a major problem how this is positioned "The Server for Everyone". I am in IT and know what a DNS is. Most home users would NOT have a DNS running as it's not necessary not even talking about SSL certificates. I think this is a major problem here that it market incorrectly.
iToaster wrote:
if your trying to have portable home directories and having iphoto library sync'd
I don't recomend on wireless , even on a wired 1gb network it's slow
use WGM to skip iphoto or be prepaired for a long wait
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iToaster wrote:
for the cost of ML server it's probibly cheaper in the long run then the time you'd spend
trying to get the same funtionallity via terminal. plus the posiblity of a OS update
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Currently have been testing Lion Server and Profile Manager Configuration.
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Lion with Server App and Server Admin Tools
Configured Open Directory Master and enabled SSL on LDAP
Once Configured OD has created a CA Certificate can use for Profile Manager
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taubmas wrote:
Not sure if its that as finally got Lion Server working on a VM setup so network shouldn't be an issue...
Had 1 OSX Lion Server VM and 1 OSX Lion Client VM and OSX Lion Server VM gets profile and enrolls device fine but again OSX client doesn't get enroll just sits again at installing..... even if set keychain to trust and make trust profile verified..
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