Lion - Time Machine - Filevault

Has anyone tested Time Machine and Filevault in Lion?
Do users still need to logoff to start the backup process?
Does the backup media need to have the same amount of storage space as the primary machine or can you restrict the data that is backed up?

If you're still using the original File Vault, it hasn't changed.
If you turned it off, and are now using File Vault 2, Time Machine works as it does on a "normal" account.
See the beginning of #25 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions.

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I want to downgrade from Lion to SL. If I do a fresh install of SL will it be able to read my Lion Time Machine backup to restore my applications and data?

To clarify any perceived inconsistency between my advice and that of sig's, my presumption was that you were going to do a complete restore from Time Machine. If that's not the case, sig's advice is important.

Using Lion time machine to recover files to MacBook Pro running Mountain Lion

In order to partition my "vintage" MacBook Pro to run Bootcamp, I've had to go back to the previous OS (Mountain Lion), and before erasing my hard drive I did a full backup to Time Machine. Once I connected the external HD to the "mountain lion" laptop and I went to the Time machine, and was prompted to start it up. After a backup process I looked at my time machine disks and see the backup, but the times prior to this last backup are greyed out. If I go to each prior backup session I can see the files and even copy them to my laptop, but they won't open. I receive a prompt to install them from the original disks.
I don't seem to be able to recover files from the Lion Time Machine backup to the Mountain Lion.
Is there a "trick" or workaround.
Thanks

I'm a little confused. You say the previous OS was Mountain Lion, but Mountain Lion is the most recent there is.
Then you say you're unable to recover files from the Lion backup.
Please clarify exactly what you have, and what you're trying to do.
If you want to restore your entire OSX partition, including OSX, apps, user accounts, settings, and data, you can do that from any backup, but not via the Time Machine browser (the "Star Wars" display). Instead, you do a full system restore, per Time Machine - Frequently Asked Question #14.

Can I use a mountain lion time machine back up on new mavericks macs?

My macbook retina was stolen at my school. I was wondering because I used time machine having mountain lion, does it affect anything when if i purchase a mavericks macbook pro? the just announced one. I have all my pictures (iphoto) in that last back up. Can i use a mountain lion time machine back up on new mavericks macs? My macbook retina was stolen on August 16? So I don't know if there was an update on my mac that might affect it in any way...

It's ok you can use your ML TM to transfer your account. iPhoto library and other things will be upgraded when you open the apps.
At the end of the Apple article it says:
Migrating a Time Machine backup to a new Mac
When you get a new Mac, you can transfer all of your applications, files, settings, and other information from a Time Machine backup you've already made. When you start up your new Mac for the first time, the Setup Assistant asks you if you would like to restore from backup. If you've already set up your new Mac, you can use theMigration Assistant (located in Applications/Utilities) to do the same thing.
After Migration Assistant completes the transfer and you select your existing Time Machine backup drive, you will be prompted with "Inherit Backup History". Once selected you will be able to continue to use your existing Time Machine backup on your new Mac.

Crashed OS MacBook Lion Time Machine Question

I have an older back up of my MacBook in Time Machine on a external hardrive.
Is is possible to add to the backup in target mode? The computer will not boot right now, but I can get to the volumes via target. I can access the revovery HD when I hold down the option key starting up.
The MacBook has some sort of infixable sibling error, which is getting pregressivly worse. Additionally I've up graded to Lion since the Origional back up and partioned the drive, so it wouldn't really match the origional Time Machine back-up.

I really appreciate both your efforts but let me clarify a few things here before you continue posting incorrect information.
#1 - I have not done anything in the Finder that will hurt anything. Opening a folder in finder is like going to the terminal and running a "ls" command.
#2 - The reason for my original post is becaue this is def. a bug or undocumented feature. Time Machine backups should be backwards compatible.
There is no reason for me to open Time Machine and not be able to open an older backup done in Snow Leopard, UNLESS, it is an expected issue. If this is the expected behavior, the first time one connects the drive, the system should provide some type of warning.
Time Machine displays my older backup dates in Time Machine, but I can't select them to read, restore or anything. Then I went to the finder to open the connected USB drive to confirm if the files were there or not, as my hard drive space is still occupied.
You CAN manually copy files from a Time Machine backup drive. This causes NO ISSUES, unless you start messing with the files that Time Machine uses to organize the data being displayed on the app.
I am a systems engineer, web developer, and systems analyst. I work on multiple operating systems (Unix, Windows, Solaris, Linux all flavors, and Mac OS). I have been working with operating systems since the MS-DOS no-Windows era. There is a very slim chance that I will mess up any operating system, especially OS X.
So, let me re-phrase my question: Is OS X Lion Time Machine backwards compatible or can it not ready Snow Leopard Time Machine generated backup files?
Thank you for any well informed replies.

Mail from Lion Time Machine Backup to Mountain Lion

Hello,
My Lion iMac is crashed and now I want to put my Mail database from Lion Time Machine Backup to my Mountain Lion Mac Mini.
In Migration-assistent under Users there is no topic for Address Book, Calendar and Mail. Also the helpdesk told me not to use the migration-assistent but doing it manually.
How can I add extra accounts from the Lion Time Machine Backup ?
I have already <emailaccount1> working on my Mac Mini. It is just merging <emailaccount2> upto <emailaccount7>.
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Hubert

Hello Sig,
This helped but the original mail data is deleted completely. I tried it on a dummy account and discovered that the original data of <emailaccount1> is deleted by copying the Mail folder onto the original one.
So I made a copy of the Mail folder before overwriting it. Then I copied the deleted mbox files back to the Mailboxes folder and started Mail.app.
Thanks,
Hubert

Mountain Lion & Time Machine

Since downloading mountain lion, time machine has been trying to back-up more than 180 GB of data when I only have a 4 GB hard drive. Status box says it will take 40 plus days. Is there a fix?

Read This: https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4055

Mountain Lion Time Machine over Snow Leopard TM

Is it save to create a Mountain Lion Time Machine backup on an external hard drive with a Snow Leopard Time Machine backup? The TM Preference panel is showing "Oldest backup: None" and "Latest Backup: None". Will Mountain Lion erase the prior Snow Leopard TM backup? I don't want to lose my prior backups.

I intended to ask: "Is it SAFE....."

Moutain Lion Time Machine Backup To WHS 2011 Via Disk Utility Image On Windows Share?

I read that with Lion you could do a Time Machine backup to a network share on Windows Home Server 2011. I read you could create a image file via Disk Utility that would be placed on the network share, but mounted as a regular disk in Mac. I think I read this method no longer works on Moutain Lion though. Has anyone tried it? I'm setting up a new Mac Mini and would like to do time machine backups to my WHS 2011 drivepool. If it is possible great, any way to use the backup for bare metal restores as well? (ether across the network, or putting that image file on a usb drive first etc) I use bootcamp to go back and forth on my Mac Mini, but I'd like to keep things backed up on the Mac side via standard time machine.

I re-googled and found something I read about a few days ago that shows how it was done in Lion:
http://basilsalad.com/how-to/create-time-machine-backup-network-drive-lion/
I think maybe I found someone that tells how to do it:
http://www.jamesbadger.ca/2012/09/12/mountain-lion-time-machine-over-afp-auto-mo unt-edition/
The question is, how do I use this backup for a baremetal restore then? I'm assuming I would do a generic Mountain Lion restore, and then just restore over the network after I manually re-mount the image again first.
Does this sound like a real option/solution? Looks like maybe I answered my own question, but I'd like to hear anyone else confirm it works and is worth trying.
So my goal is to do a time machine backup over the network to a windows machine.
If it's not possible, I guess I'll have to break down and plug in an external USB drive, but I'd still like to know if it's possible for another friend as well.

IWeb v3.0.4 (601) + Lion + Time Machine

Mac Book Pro, Lion Time Machine, wireless, iWeb
My Time machine won't unmount after a successful backup. (The desktop icon remains though the icon on the top bar says the backup was successfully finished.
Console has this message:
7/30/11 8:57:13.959 AM mdworker: (Error) ImportPluginLoading: Couldn't load plugin '/Library/Spotlight/iWeb.mdimporter/'
The fan runs hard after a while, the icon remains on the desktop.
What's up with the error message? How can this be corrected?
Thanks!

Sounds like a question for the Lion/Time Machine community rather than the iWeb community.
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Access Lion Time Machine with Tiger

My main Mac is down until I can muster enough cash to replace the video card. on it. It's a Mac Pro 1.1. I have my sister's G4 1.67Ghz PowerBook I gave her sometime ago running latest Tiger version. i want to access some of my Lion Time Machine back up....specifically Keychain and Documents.
Is there a way to do this? I can see the directories through Finder, but actually going through Time Machine to recover these files is not even available to me.

Robert Pena wrote:
Is there a way to do this? I can see the directories through Finder, but actually going through Time Machine to recover these files is not even available to me.
If you are sure you can see the Time Machine directories via the PPC Mac's Finder, you should be able to copy them to that Mac -- but be aware that if you accidentally modify, delete, move, or otherwise disturb the Time Machine folders from the Finder you risk corrupting the Time Machine backup. (This has as much to do with file system changes made in Leopard & later OS versions as it does with Time Machine's backup format itself.)
Plus, the bigger problem you are likely to have is working with the files on a PPC Mac running Tiger. Many files won't be compatible with the PPC apps or Tiger OS frameworks available on that Mac. This problem is as true for a clone as it is for a Time Machine backup & should not be underestimated.
Regarding Time Machine being useless or not as good as a clone, I suggest reading what respected ASC user Pondini says here about the relative merits of each of the major backup strategies.

After installing lion, time machine does not always back up. The back up disk is occasionally not recognized.

after installing lion, time machine does not always back up. The back up disk is occasionally not recognized. Help!

This is easy one.. for most.. just restart the TC.. ie pull out the power.. count to 10.. plug in the power.
If the simple doesn't work you can see more info here.
C12 http://pondini.org/TM/Troubleshooting.html

Lion time machine - external drive spin up causing apps to crash

I have a 1TB external drive set up for time machine backups on my 27" iMac running Lion 10.7.3 that seems to be causing my Adobe CS 5.5 suite of apps (photoshop in partiucular) to crash as the drive spins up. If an adobe application or lion/time machine is asking the drive to spin up I have no idea, but it seems random, and when it does, the adobe app(s) freeze and the beach ball from **** just spins. All other applications remain uneffected which leads me to believe it's related to a scratch disk function of some sort. I've googled high and low to find an scrap on insight into this issue and have found nothing...
Few questions:
• Why does the time machine external drive randomly spin up even though there are no backup processes running?
• Why would an adobe app would need to access an external drive?
Before anyone says it, I know I can always just eject the drives, but I'd rather keep my backups running for obvious reasons. If a complete wipe and install is the only solution recommended by the doctor, I will. It's just maddening to regularly loose work. Any help is greatly appreciated!
iMac: Mid 2010 27"
Processor 2.8 GHz Intel Core i5
Memory 8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Graphics ATI Radeon HD 5750 1024 MB
Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 (11D50)
Adobe CS 5.5
Photoshop CS5 / v12.1 x64
Illustrator CS5 / v15.1.0
InDesign CS5.5 / v7.5.2
External Drives
Firewire800: 2TB Hitachi G-Drive: http://www.g-technology.com/products/g-drive.cfm
USB: 1TB Western Digital MyPassport 0730

Set the TM drive not to spin down, I think there is a setting in the system preferences.
Could be the G drive feature,
consider making option key bootable clone drives
Most commonly used backup methods explained

I want to use two separate Lion Time Machine backups and use them to create two separate profiles on one new computer

This is something I need to do temporarily but I must do it.
I have an iMac 27 (end of year 2009) I5. It has 1 TB internal and I want to replace it with a 2 TB internal.
I have time machine backups on an external hard drive that has been connected via Firewire.
I have another iMac (my son's)Imac 24 Intel Core 2 Duo that has it's own separate Time machine backup to it's own separate firewire connected external drive. Both machines are completely up to date with the latest version of Lion and all other necessary software updates.
When the internal hardrive is replaced - I want to use my latest time machine backup to create one profile on the imac and then use my son's latest time machine back up for a second profile. The end goal being to have everything from my current set up ie: apps, documents, itunes, etc existing in one profile and everything in my son's current set up existing in the other profile. We can both be administrators for the time being as well. I should note even though we both have some of the same apps, we both also have other apps that the other does not.
My profile will be using about 900 gigs of total space.
My son's profile will be using about 250 gigs of total space.
This is temporary until the new iMac is released. Then I will want to transfer my profile to that leaving my son's intact on the iMac 27 I5.
I realize that during the temporary period that Time Machine will be making backups of this entire two profile setup, which I am now understanding as I write this will create a new issue for me when I want to transfer only my profile to the new computer as well. But one bridge to cross at a time, I guess.
I need to do this because we must bring his current computer to my father - as his iMac G5 is inoperable. We have been doing this round robin hand me down in our family since IMac DV special edition :-)
Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated. And any other suggestions as well.
Thanks very much.

Hey Shootist000, Thanks for the replies. First off, I am actually okay if we both have each other applications so I am not concerned about that. It is still unclear from what you have said as to whether I can in fact, use these two separte time machine backup to create two separate profiles on the new hard drive. If that in fact can be done, then - will it create two copies of the apps we both have in the ROOT of the drive as well as placing all the ones we each have separately?
And reading your second reply, makes me think that maybe the partition is the way to go to begin with and then down the road - after I am in the new iMac, I could reformat the iMac 27 with only one partion and restore my son's latest back prior to the reformat thus giving him full access to the 2 TB of the drive.
If this is still making sense, does this mean :
replace the 1TB with a 2TB - but have it partitione - 1.5 TB & 500 GB.
Install(Restore using Time Machine) my latest back up prior to the 1.5 partition
Install (Restore using Time Machine) my son's latest back up prior to the 500 gig partition
Lastly, in order for us both to be using the partioned computer - I am assuming Switch user can no longer be used - so would we need to restart and select our respective partions in order to use the computer? And if so, how would we each be able to be using time machine to back up - two separte external hard drives - with each one dedicated to only one partition? Or ?
Thanks so much.
Ironically, I am only trying to do this so that I don't need to manually install all his apps, setting, games, blah blah for this temporary period. :-)

Time machine, Filevault and hard drive space

I got 2 external hard drives. The first, 250gb, has 3 Mac Os partitions, one of them of 180 gb I use to backup my macbook (120 gb hd with filevault) with time machine. Everything ok. The other, 300gb, 2 partitions one with mac os the other for win with ntfs. The mac partition is 200 gb. When I try to backup, time machine says I need 360 gb (!!). In fact, If i look info of my encrypted home, it says it is 220 gb. What's happening? Why with one disk everything is ok and with the other no? I can say also that in the past, I had no problem with the second disk. Maybe now my home is too big to be backed up the first time, while the other disk was ready yet since when my home folder was more little?

dwb wrote:
To stop backing up because TimeMachine does mobile backups and takes up some hard drive is like disconnecting the brakes of your car because using brakes wear them out and they are expensive to repair.
Yes, they are similar. One will kill you, your family, and everyone in your vicinity, while the other will potentially cause you to lose Aunt Ruth's vacation photos.
You'd be crazy to either disconnect your automobile's brakes or turn off Mobile Backup in Time Machine. Absoutely insane.
Since you've already gotten reasonable and rational technical support on this issue, as one always does on the Internet, I feel reticient to add anything.
Alas, I'm feeling adventurous, so here goes:
If you'd like to disable mobile backups to your internal hard drive, and would like Time Machine to only back up to your external drive, fire up the terminal and type: sudo tmutil disablelocal
The local hard drive backups are "normal", and they will be deleted should you need the HD space for other files. I actually like the feature and leave it on.
Some people don't like it, however, and if you count yourself among those people, use the above command.
P.S. Disabling Mobile Backups is nothing like disabling the brakes on your car.

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