Liquid cooler fans on blackbird 002

I would like to know how to check out the liquid cooling system. At the current time my system overheats rather rapidly ( about 10 min. ) I need to check pump, liquid levels and power at source of pump. The radiator fans are working and so are all other fans.Is there a quick way to tell if the pump works. It may be the motherboard but I hope not. I also can't figure out how to pull out the main fans and get to the radiator.

HWMonitor picks up 3 different fan speeds for fans 0,1,and 2. #1 was running at about 700 rpm 2 at 3200 rmp and 3 at 700 rpm. I have a striker extreme motherboard, and two wires coming off of the part of the cooler mounted to the CPU, a green and black are connected to a terminal identified as CHA FAN1. Is this the power to the pump? I don't think it is showing up on HWM.I am going to call asus but if you have any recommendations please let me know.PS CPU core 1and 2 temps got over 101 deg F and machine shut down.I may try testing voltage output at CHA FAN1on the mother board.

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www.hp.com/contacthp/
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