List addresses 'rejected as invalid recipients' ??
I'm wondering how to use the CLI to generate a list of e-mail addresses that were rejected as 'invalid recipients' from specific mail servers?
We have some mail servers in our organization used for testing that send mostly legitimate mail, but also some invalid recipient mail to our IronPort. I can see in the 'Incoming Mail' reports that those specific servers are delivering lots of e-mail to 'invalid recipients'. I want to help out the admins of those servers by providing them a list of the 'invalid recipient' e-mails that are being generated.
IronPort support gave me the following query to use, but it returns 0 results, even though I can see in the 'Incoming Mail' reports that they are submitting thousands of invalid recipients per day.
grep -e "@edmunds.com.*rejected by Recipient Access Table" mail_logs
No results were found. Use another regular expression(s) to search.
Any ideas will be much appreciated. Thanks!
Try a case insensitive grep. I forget what the option for that is, but it's probably -i.
If that doesn't work, then download one of the log files to somewhere where you've got better tools. Then figure out exactly what regular expression will match, and use that in the CLI. There's probably some subtle error with the regex you're using, like a minor wording or spacing error.
As usual, Don gives good advice. The -i flag is your friend, unless you are sure of the capitalization of what you're looking for.
Also, the exact message may vary by version. Here's what I got on one test system:
grep -i "@example.com.*Rejected by RAT" mail_logs
Thu Jun 26 21:45:26 2008 Info: MID 67 ICID 10 To: Rejected by RAT
Karl Young
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Sep 4 18:29:25 myservername postfix/smtpd[75776]: 73E88BA7F8: client=n23.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com[87.248.110.140]
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Sep 4 18:29:25 myservername postfix/smtpd[75776]: disconnect from n23.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com[87.248.110.140]
Sep 4 18:29:26 myservername postfix/smtpd[75787]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
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Sep 4 18:29:26 myservername postfix/smtp[75785]: 73E88BA7F8: to=<[email protected]>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=1, delays=0.36/0.01/0/0.66, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok, id=59259-09, from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 57E3EBA809)
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I headed over to the local police department web site to file an inncodent report, and the police web page rejected my email - tunepoet at mac dot com - as "invalid. That address is still good for quite a while, and as I would rather file a report online, to start, than phone in, can you please explain why tunepoet at mac dot com was rejected as invalid?
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.Mac
account with user name
"tunepoet" and mail server""
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tunepoet at mac dot com,
tunepoet at me dot com
Account name: .Mac
Full name: System
Administrator
And (quote)
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account with user name
"tunepoet" and mail server""
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> The email was sent to 2 individuals at sl*****, but only one went out
> without error.
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> <mailto:p****@pubpress.com>
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> <mailto:k****@pubpress.com>
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> <mailto:c*****@slackinc.com>
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> <mailto:a*****@slackinc.com>
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> 14:05:00 210 Recipient: a*****@sl*****.com <mailto:a*****@sl*****.com>
> 14:05:00 210 Recipient: c*****@sl*****.com <mailto:c*****@sl*****.com>
> 14:05:00 210 MSG 280915 Queuing to MTA
> 14:05:01 383 DMN: MSG 280917 Send Failure: 550 5.1.1
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> rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table
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> 14:05:16 109 MSG 280934 Detected error on SMTP command
> 14:05:16 109 MSG 280934 Command: RCPT TO:<a*****@sl*****.com
> <mailto:a*****@sl*****.com>>
> 14:05:16 109 MSG 280934 Response: 550 5.1.1 <a*****@sl*****.com
> <mailto:a*****@sl*****.com>>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown
> in relay recipient table
> 14:05:16 109 Building undeliverable message
> 14:05:16 109 MSG 280934 Building message: sb50761c.155
>
> >>> Massimo Rosen<[email protected]> 1/20/2010 11:28:AM >>>
> Hi,
>
> > "[email protected]" wrote:
> >
> > Running GW 7.0.3 on NW 6.5.6. Can anyone tell me if this is my
> > problem or if it is the recipients system. Other email to the same
> > domain goes through.
>
> Impossible to say without more details, precisely GWIA logs. The only
> way how this could be a problem on your side is if GWIA is talking to
> the wrong server. That has been a problem in the past occasionally, and
> is often DNS related, e.g could be a problem of the OS even. Of course,
> in that regard, SP6 for NW65 is old. I'd suggest to install SP8 anyways.
>
> CU,
> --
> Massimo Rosen
> Novell Product Support Forum Sysop
> No emails please!
> http://www.cfc-it.de
>
>
The rejection seems to be on their side. -
List of rejected sales order with quantity and value
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Is it possible to get the report from VA05 for the list of rejected items with value and quantity ?
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Thanks,
VijeshDear Vijesh,
VA05 I believe is a very powerful report for doing analysis at order and line item level. If your rejection criterion includes a rejection reason at line item level, yes this list from VA05 can give rejected Sales Orders with Quantity and Value. See the screen shot below.
I selected a list with open dates till date, I can see Sales Order number, Sales Document Type, Item Number, Material, Rejection reason, Quantity at line item level and net price.
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biff = no
command_directory = /usr/sbin
config_directory = /etc/postfix
content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024
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debug_peer_level = 2
enable_server_options = yes
header_checks = pcre:/etc/postfix/custom_header_checks
html_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix/html
inet_interfaces = all
mail_owner = _postfix
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mailbox_transport = dovecot
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