LiteOn SOHW-1633S problems on Neo2 54g Platinum

Hello everyone,
recently I bought MSI Neo2 54 Platinum mobo with 3200+ AMD64 on 939 socket. Everything is just fine, exept one thing - every time I access CD Win XP goes mad:
1. If I see properties of my LiteOn SOHW-1633S DVD-RW drive in device manager, don't touch any settings and just press "OK", XP crashes with blue screen;
2. Everytime (100%) I insert Audio CD in tray and use _any_ audio cd playback app to play it, XP crashes with blue screen, complaining about CDFS error and mentioning something about gearAspiWDM.sys driver;
3. Usualy, when I insert data CD, I have to wait very long for drive to read it, but when CD is spinned up, reading is OK, but if spinning stops because let's say I read some pdf out of CD for some time, then drive cannot read that disk again on second access, and I have to reload (eject) CD to make it be read again.
First, I thought, that problem is caused of some buggy firmware of my Liteon SOHW-1633S, but the same problem persists even reflashing drive with newest firmware from site.
Second, I checked BIOS settings, all DMA and PIO settings are set to AUTO, enabled only "IDE prefetch" option, DMA on all SATA disabled (should it be anabled, btw?), so no "super tunning" options are set.
And last, after installing XP, I went straight to nvidia site, downloaded and installed 5.10 version of unified nforce chipset driver. No drivers from MSI mobo CD at all on my system, and corecell and other msi utilities are installed, but not started.
I tried that 5.10 with SW IDE driver installed and without, effect is the same, system still hangs on CD access. Any recommendations, tests and opinions are very appreciated.
P.S. AMD64 939 3200+, 512MB DualChannel PQI, Seagate Baracuda 160 SATA, Liteon SOHW-1633S, Leadtek FX5700 VIVO. All nVidia drivers from site, no drivers from CDs.
Thank YOU very much,
-c.

WELCOME.
1) ALWAYS set ANY CD/DVD-RW as secondary master in your system.
2) Please give full system specs, including PSU rails (look at my sig).
3) What about your IDE cable (does it has 80 conductive wires or is the one that has 40)?
4) If none of the above mentioned works, this could be a memory problem. Try with other type of memory or you can run memtest for 1 day to see if your memory is faulty.
Edyros!

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*EDIT* Added additional methods attempted... (there was a lot... so I did not remember everything that I have tried)

Quote from: dacull on 25-May-05, 16:06:33
Does it only happen in online games, or can it happen in all games? One thing to make sure of is to turn off CRC checksum offload in your NVidia MAC properties (everyone do this, it is incorrectly calculating checksums which leads to servers ignoring your packets). However as you have tried a different network card you can discount this theory.
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As a test beg/borrow/steal another graphics card (preferably nvidia) and see how it goes so you can narrow in on your video card.
It is not just one game, but it is more prodominate in certain games than others... the game in question here is Planetside... though I stuck a demo of Unreal Tournament 2004 on a loop bot match and it seemed to have locked up after 4 hours (not sure how many times it experienced that 5-10 freeze as I went to bed). As for the video card it was KNOWN working from a previous build in those same games (Previous build was a AMDXP3000 and a Abit NF7-S nForce2 motherboard). The only components different in this build is the AMD64, the MSI Neo2 K8N, 2 new sticks of Corsair XMS to replace the Corsair ValueSelects, and the SB Audigy2 as I would never use a software codec audio solution. Spread Spectrum is LOCKED in BIOS and disabled... ATI/nVidia speed up was disabled from the start... and I tried the Video Card at default clock, over clocked, as well as under clocked and the same issue resulted... as I said before it is NOT the video card.
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Indeed...
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The nforce3 drivers are almost a year old, and i'm not sure if nforce4 is compatible...
I think the're compatible because if you enter in msi driver download page and select my model, they put the Nforce3 and nforce4 for win64 and my model is only nforce3. The thing is they havent released the nforce3 for WIN 64.... So.. It's normal that win asks me for some files that ain't in the .zip file (i extracted the files o course) and Which driver should i put the Nvidia one year old nforce3 or the new nforce4. (the nforce3 for 32 bits is rejected by windows) or... i have to wait the new nforce3?
thanks for helps

LiteOn SOHW-1633S problems on Neo2 54g Platinum

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