Lithium Ion Battery Help plea

I was wondering how does the recharging Lithium Ion battery works? (eg:4hrs of batter life, does it run out in 4hours? or 4hours of useing the item? so power doesnt run out while it being closed?)
please help and thanks all!

EQ might be wonders to some, others might think it's an disturbance to the original music. I think it's great for me since I like to enjoy the music more, even though it is classified as distorting the music, I don't mind at all. Just don't max out your settings.
Having EQ does drain the battery, but not as significant as Smart Volume. EQ will waste about -2 hours on your player.
If you like to touch your player a lot, like to change volume or skip tracks and such, that will drain your battery life more. What I do is I use an in-line volume controller connected to my earphones, then set the volume to good setting. That way I don't use my Micro just to change the volume and waste more battery life.
As for warranty, you must save the receipt from the store you bought it from. If you bought it on ebay, you must have the original owner's receipt and not the receipt you get on paypal. So if the owner bought it at bestbuy and sells it on ebay. You must get his bestbuy receipt. The original receipt is your ticket to your warranty.
You should read the warranty coverage to get most of your questions answers. Most warranty usually covers not at fault problems. They would call those defects or faulty to begin with. If there is something you don't understand about it, ask more questions here.
If one day your player freezes up and you can't fix it, that would be covered by the warranty. However, headphone jacks breaking, dropping it, and anything that damages it physically might not be covered on warranty. At this point, call Creative and see what they want to do. Usually they would take it in, but I don't know why.

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I have been told by the local Apple Store Genius Bar that I should cycle the Lithium Ion battery down and then charge it back up to increase battery life. I thought that this was not necessary with a Lithium Ion battery. What is the truth here? I use my MBP on my desk most of the time and it is easier to keep it plugged in.
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tonefox,
Some of your recommendations are out of date:
It is suggested you run it down until the phone powers down and then charge it right up to 100% occasionally. But that is only to recalibrate the oercentage readout.
OP has an MacBook Pro, not a phone, and User calibaration ceased to exist with the 2009 MacBook Pros according to this article:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1490
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Anna's link to that artilce is very important to good battery life. I've been around here a long time and the number of batteries that failed early from lack of use far exceeds those that failed for any reason when the usage patterns outlined in that article were followed. i try to run my Mac portables on battery for 30 mins to a hour a day to keep thenm exercized. So dar, so good!

Exact Model Number of Toshiba lithium ion battery i need is G71C00082110

I have been unable to locate a replacement battery exactly like the one listed here. If anyone knows of a place, I'd appreciate a shout. Thanx 4 taking the time.

Post your full model number.
There should be another number on the battery, I think you are looking for this and its found in Canada :
Toshiba 6-cell Primary Battery (PA3817U-1BRS)
The Toshiba Primary Battery Pack is a 6-cell, rechargeable, Lithium Ion battery designed to work with
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MISC: Main Battery - Li-Ion Battery Pack PA3817U-1BRS DC10.8V, 48Wh (PABAS228)(G71C00082110).
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I use my HP G72 laptop around the house, and always plug it into a wall socket (being careful to first connect to the laptop, and only then into the wall socket). I don't keep it turned on all the time, but only use it about one or two hours a day. Since there's no need for the battery in these circumstances, it seems logical to me that the battery will last longer if it's put into long-term storage. I've seen two distinctly different suggestions regarding Lithium-Ion battery storage: 1) Store with only a 40% charge in a refrigerator, and 2) store with only a 40% charge at room temp (68°F to 70°F). Suggestion #1 came from http://www.techrepublic.com, suggestion #2 is from the HP website. In my experience with photography, I've always stored film and batteries in the refrigerator, and have found that they remain fresh and usable for years after their expiration date. Now, this brings up two questions: Q1) Will the battery actually last longer if I remove it from the laptop, or is it immaterial whether it's inside the laptop or stored? Q2) If storage is the answer, does anyone have direct empirical evidence of the best way to store a Lithium-Ion battery? That is ... 40% at room temp, or 40% in a fridge?
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Hi,
I would definetely recommend storing the battery at 40% charge and in a refridgerator. I believe 40% is the best charge level for storage due to the nature of the cells chemistry and again higher temperatures are asscociated with a faster loss of capacity. You may be interested on the link below which includes some graphical data on the cell decay of lithium batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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Lithium-ion Battery Care Tips

Hi
I read some tips in Yahoo Answers, Apple Articles and Apple Froum (below links)
I use my laptop 12-16 hours a day and set it to sleep after 3 min if I don't use it.
My questions are these:
I should keep the battery charge rate aroud %50-%60. It means I shoud unplug AC power when it reach %80 or more?
If no, how often I should unplug it?
If yes, I should reach 80%? what is the best rate?
More articles:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090916140048AA4zPLn
http://www.apple.com/batteries/

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hi... i dont know if i should post this here but anyways, i have a creative zen xtra, and i hadnt used it for awhile so when i try to turn it on, it wont turn on... i plug it in into the ac adapter then it starts, but it doesnt show recharging battery, just that its using the ac... is there anything i can do? would this kind of thing be covered in the warrenty? thanks.

There are a number of factors here.
How old is the player and where did you buy it's Warranty period is variable depending on where you purchased the item (3 months in US, year in UK etc.).
I have read through the warranty and nothing specifically excludes the battery. So the fault could be the battery or the player's charging circuit. If you're in warranty contact Creative Support, if not you'll probably need to buy a new battery and try that, unless you have a friend that will let you try theirs.
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EQ might be wonders to some, others might think it's an disturbance to the original music. I think it's great for me since I like to enjoy the music more, even though it is classified as distorting the music, I don't mind at all. Just don't max out your settings.
Having EQ does drain the battery, but not as significant as Smart Volume. EQ will waste about -2 hours on your player.
If you like to touch your player a lot, like to change volume or skip tracks and such, that will drain your battery life more. What I do is I use an in-line volume controller connected to my earphones, then set the volume to good setting. That way I don't use my Micro just to change the volume and waste more battery life.
As for warranty, you must save the receipt from the store you bought it from. If you bought it on ebay, you must have the original owner's receipt and not the receipt you get on paypal. So if the owner bought it at bestbuy and sells it on ebay. You must get his bestbuy receipt. The original receipt is your ticket to your warranty.
You should read the warranty coverage to get most of your questions answers. Most warranty usually covers not at fault problems. They would call those defects or faulty to begin with. If there is something you don't understand about it, ask more questions here.
If one day your player freezes up and you can't fix it, that would be covered by the warranty. However, headphone jacks breaking, dropping it, and anything that damages it physically might not be covered on warranty. At this point, call Creative and see what they want to do. Usually they would take it in, but I don't know why.

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I need to ship my Powerbook G4 15" through Fed Ex and they are now requiring a Material Safety Data Sheet to be included with the shipment. Does anyone know where I can get the MSDS for M8511 or A1012 batteries?

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Hi all,
There are severay discussions about the battery lifetime.
Toshiba says on http://support.toshiba-tro.de/kb0/FAQ35007L0020R01.htm that:
Totally discharging the battery pack before charging, will allow the battery pack to be charged to its highest capacity
But this and other points do not comfirm information about maximum battery lifetime from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery
Question: What's the best option to maximize battery lifetime with Lithium-ion batteries???????????

Hi Flutters
The "best" way to "maximize" battery life is always a tricky issue but there are a few important factors to consider:
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I did the battery test yesterday on my 30GB video as recommended. I let it play an album continually with no backlight what so ever and no equalizer. I don''t have the exact time that it took to run out but the last I checked was after 13 3/4hrs and it was still going but was deep in the red. It had add 2 accidental stoppages during this 4 about 2 mins. However I was pretty pleased with the results. I don't expect that they would have been much different with the backlight as this should have turned off after a few secs.
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Hi
Thanks for your help. One question when you listen to it like you mentioned do you change songs frequently or just let it play?

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