LIve cache and why BW in apo
helo sap masters
could u plz help me out ..
1. Why should we maintain LIVE Cache separately despite of having in APO tool.???
2. Why should we have BW in APO too in spite of having BW tool seperately ??
Hi Dallyanusha,
1) Livecache is a special inbuild device in APO which does
speedy operations especially during optimisation and retrives
data quickly from database. For effective functioning of
planning activities, livecache in APO is must.
2) BW in APO serves and stores information on business
master data and transactional data objects and can be
extracted to create various queries and reports. This is
more useful during demand planning
Regards
R. Senthil Mareeswaran.
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What are the possible live cache issues turn up for demand planning?
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Can anyone tell me the issues that may arise iin live cache and how to ensure the performance and maintenace of live cache that a planning area is utilizing it.
if the utilization is high how to bring it down!!
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PoojaHi Pooja,
1) Accumulation of logs created during demand planning jobs will have an impact on performance
and affect livecache and hence to be cleared periodically
2) Livecache consistency check to be performance at planned intervals
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4) You can also carry out /SAPAPO/PSTRUCONS - Consistency Check for Planning Object
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Regards
R. Senthil Mareeswaran.
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