Live cache database growth
Dear all,
How can be we get the database growth of livecache database for a period of time?
Please guide me the path to find these values.
Thanks n Regards,
KK
Hello,
"How can be we get the database growth of livecache database for a period of time?
Please guide me the path to find these values."
1. Please let us know if you need the general statistics of the database growth or please collobarate more about your question.
The Fill level of the database (for example, the size of the data volumes, number of permanently and temporarily used pages) statistics is collected by the DB analyzer every 15min. You could use the DB analyzer & check the statistics in DBAN_FILLING.csv
file which is created every day, if the DB analyzer is activated.
Please review SAP Note 530394 (Bottleneck Analysis with Database Analyzer).
See the MAXDB library documentation:
http://maxdb.sap.com/doc/7_7/default.htm -> Tools -> Database Analyzer < then go to More information: Database Analyzer Log Files >
2. Please let us know the version of the database.
Thank you and best regards, Natalia khlopina
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SunOS )
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"1. Since there is difference between source system and target system size / data volume number what action I need to take on target system. Do I need to add two more data volume into the target system?"
Please pay attention to the SAP note :: 457425 Homogenous liveCache copy using backup/restore
Please update the thread withy additional information ::
What is the version of the source liveCache? What is the version of the target liveCache?
How much data do you have in the source liveCache?
And you need to have the size data area of the target liveCache to be able to restore the databackup created in the source liveCache.
So by the size of the data volumes in the source liveCache, it's not clear how much data you have.
"2. After complication of database restore on target the system do I need to change the Live cache user ID (i.e. SAPSCD to SAPSCT)?"
Please review the SAP note 877203.
You could rename the user SAPSCD to SAPSCT using the SAP note 877203 steps
OR
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PS: Please pay attention about the value of the liveCache parameter _UNICODE.
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Thank you and best regards, Natalia Khlopina -
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liveCache to another operating system or convert your system to Unicode,
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2. Could you collaborate more on this sentence. Could you give examples?
3. u201CAnd how does data gets pulled in to live cache from APO DBu201D
The data are not pulled from the APO DB to liveCache.
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and shipped to the customers as binary LCA libraries(LCA build) together with the LiveCache.
< See more details in SAP Note No. 824489 or 1278897 as of SCM 7.0 >
4. See the SAP notes:
869267 FAQ: SAP MaxDB LOG area
1377148 FAQ: SAP MaxDB backup/recovery
5. You could run the quicksizer & estimate how much data you are planning to have in liveCache.
Also the amount of data could be increased by the creation of the new data in APO by users
Or another reason u2026
In general you will add the datavolume to solve or prevent the DB_FULL issue,
See u201C17. What do I do if the data area is full? u201C in SAP note 846890.
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Thanks for the reply.
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During Installation, SAPinst asked for Live cache related details (eg, Live Cache ID - we have given LC1, Control user's Pwd etc) along with the installation DVD for the same - where we have given the DVD 51032259_11 (NW 2004s SR2 liveCache 7.6.0 Windows Server on IA32 32bit).
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**Does this mean that Live Cache Server got installed ??
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ERROR! Connection failed to node <LOCAL> for database <SID>:
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DBMRFC Function : DBM_CONNECT
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Error Message database instance not found
How should we proceed now??
Thanks & Regards,
Souren -
Hi Experts,
I am beginner to SCM and Live cache technology.
I have sucessfully installed SCM 5.0 and Live cache 7.6.29 on two different HP-Ux 11.23 servers.
My first requirent is to take live cache backup. But there is no tape drive connect to any of the server,
local file system assigned as backup space, accordingly I have successfully taken online backup of SCM database by modifying entries like backup_dev_type to tape in init<SID>.sap.
Know I am facing a challenge to take live cache backup on local file system , infact dont know how to take online live cache backup.
Another question is database manager gui is needed in unix environment, if yes please let me know the procedure how to configure this as In transaction lc10 upon double clicking database manager gui system generating error.
Please help to solve the above two problems.
Thanks & Regards,
Maqsood AhmedHi Ahmed (no own SDN account? ).
I'd like to make a few remarks on this:
1. Backup to local filesystem w/o moving it to another location afterwards is next to useless. What happens when (when not if!), the local disk crashes? What backup can you use then?
2. You can perform liveCache Backups from DB13C/DBACockpit after you've integrated the liveCache instance (DB59).
3. If you like to administer the liveCache via DBMGUI - just install DBMGUI on your Windows Workstation and connect remotely to the liveCache. Actually this is the way how it was thought up.
For detailed information how to work with liveCache I propose you check:
The documentation [Backup/Recovery SAP Library - Database Administration in CCMS: SAP liveCache Technology|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/EN/e9/dc1c3e46903b2ee10000000a114084/content.htm]
The SDN Content on liveCache [https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/livecache]
The SCM Technology pages in the SAP Service Marketplace [https://service.sap.com/scm] -> SAP SCM Technology
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Lars -
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Hi,
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INSTALLER_INFO: Version = 7.7.03 Build 023-123-174-368
INSTALLER_INFO: Changelist = 174368
INSTALLER_INFO: MakeId = 285415
INSTALLER_INFO: Type = kit
SYS_INFO: Host name = FMSAP457
SYS_INFO: System = Windows
SYS_INFO: Architecture = IA64
SYS_INFO: Version = NT 5.2
SYS_INFO: Subversion = Service Pack 2
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SAP liveCache INSTANCE UPDATE
STDOUT: *****************************
STDOUT: starting installation We, Oct 08, 2008 at 01:26:46
STDOUT: operating system: Windows IA64 NT 5.2 Service Pack 2
STDOUT: callers working directory: Z:/SCM_51upgradeCD/SCM5.1_SPS6/lca600011_livecache-win-64bit-i386-7_7_03_23
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MSG: InstallRegistry: space check ok: 16843616 kb on W: (17719292 kb total) available
MSG: install registry successfully locked
MSG: read 16 PACKAGES
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WRN: InstallRegistry::reserveSpace(): file >= 1024 kb
STDOUT: archive directory: Z:/SCM_51upgradeCD/SCM5.1_SPS6/lca600011_livecache-win-64bit-i386-7_7_03_23
STDOUT:
MSG: debug package SDBBAS.SDB is valid
MSG: debug package SDBKRN.SDB is valid
MSG: debug package SDBUTL.SDB is valid
MSG: no installation data to migrate
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STDOUT: existing instance:
STDOUT: 0: LCA "O:/sapdb/LCA/db" 7.6.3.8
STDOUT: 1: none
STDOUT: please enter instance id:
STDIN: 0
STDOUT: please enter database manager operators name:
STDIN: control
STDOUT: please enter database manager operators password: STDOUT:
STDIN:
STDOUT: resume broken instance check
x_server is running
got following x_server data:
version = W64/INTEL 7.6.3 Build 008-123-159-187
dbmsrv uses db_online
dbmsrv uses db_admin
STDOUT: finding instance type...
instance type is LVC
getting catalog encoding...
catalog encoding is UNICODE
STDOUT: finding starting release...
kernel executable is O:\sapdb\LCA\db/pgm/kernel.exe
kernel version by GetBuildString 7.6.3 Build 008-123-159-187
starting release is 7.6.3 Build 008-123-159-187
STDOUT: finding apo starting release...
sapapo lib is O:\sapdb\LCA\db/sap/sapapo.dll
apo version by GetBuildInfo 5.0.0.13
apo starting release is 5.0.0.13
STDOUT: finding migration strategy...
migration is using external livecache consistency
from LVC 7.6.3 Build 008-123-159-187
and APO 5.0.0.13
to LVC 7.7.03
and APO 6.0.0.011
STDOUT: looking for running instances...
no instances found
db_enum
OK
MSG: writing 16 packages
MSG: net install registry size = 133192 bytes
MSG: wrote install registry (156751 bytes)
STDERR: MaxDB instance "LCA" not ready to update
STDERR: looking for running instances...
no instances found
db_enum
OK
STDERR: SAP liveCache instance update exited abnormally at We, Oct 08, 2008 at 01:28:48
MSG: install registry successfully unlocked
Regards
AbrahamAs a SAP customer: please open a support message for this!
regards,
Lars -
hello expert,
I want to install a live cache server on a separate host, but failed more times, and got a same error messge every time as below,
Some database applications are probably still running.Check the log file sdbinst.log.
and the sdbinst.log file information :
starting preparing phase of package Base 7.6.00.29 64 bit
file C:/Windows/SysWOW64/drivers/etc/services not found
installation exited abnormally at Tu, Dec 29, 2009 at 09:23:36
I install live cache server on windows 2008 64bit.
how to slove this issue? can someone help me out? thanks in advance.Sloved.
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