Live Cache - Domain/Work group

When installing Live Cache, does it have to be inherently part of a 'Domain' - or,
can it be in a local 'Work Group' ?

it is up to you, but domain installation offer more possibilities for central resource administration - file share access, configure logon groups via LDAP etc.
In generally if you plan more than one instance of live cache the domain installation might be preferable.

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    regards,
    Lars
    please don't blame me for adding the numbers to the three bad words above - this was the only way to get around the awkward content filtering of this forum
    Edited by: Lars Breddemann on Sep 4, 2009 9:47 AM

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