Live CD for newbies and dial up users

Question

From comments I am receiving abut the usage of AL-AMLUG Live CD, it helps <b>newbies</b> to install the native Arch Linux in HDD. Without any "headage" it does all the major configures (X, sound, network, and LILO) for you. The "<b>hd-install</b>" includes Hwd (hardware detect) and net-install with DHCP & ADSL setup.
Does sounds good for a newbie? Anything good also include a "but...". Disadvantage with hd-install, in my opinion, you will miss the learning of Arch Linux's configure system what you may need for post configure of new hardwares and programs..... sooner or later you have to become an Archer 
The live CD is also for the "<b>dial up users</b>" with 56k modems, when the packages in Arch Linux's latest installer CD getting outdated. Example, AL 0.5 was released July 21, 2003. The current live CD 0.4.2 with the base, KDE and common packages updated on February 12, 2004.
http://amlug.net/new-projects/live-cd/p … list-0.4.2
GNOME users may not be happy. For your information, there is still 280MB space on the live CD for more packages. Total space: 1.3GB (compressed to 700MB).
AL-AMLUG Live CD project page:
http://amlug.net/new-projects/live-cd/a … ve-cd.html

Answer 1

beniro,
after week of not even touching this thread i still have to say that i fail to see what is derogatory in my comments. derrogatory is where you put down something for the sake of putting something down.  i  hardly ever do something like that. i may be blunt but hardly ever derrogatory. 
look in the mirror? i have done that alot i have looked in the mirror i have tried to understand the way some people came to the conclusioned they did about me. perhaps i a m blind or stupid but when have i ever not tried to get something positive for the community? when i look in that mirro i see someone who put alot of time and effort into helping the community with problems. i see somebody that where ever they have gone always express what they feel despite what blowback may happen. i don't believe in bottling things up. in the end though all people see is the negative.
nifan,
there are lots of ways to help a friend out installling any distro. but in the end if you don't know the guts then expect things to go bad at some point. linux is not designed for someone who just wants the computer to do everything. indeed if linux were like that then there would be a whole host of security risks presented.
as for me slamming arch. well if you didn't notice i having only been too willing to always air out arch's dirty laundry.  i have been harping on the documentation and so have many others. should those others move on too while the developers/community continue to bury their heads in the sand and feel they can keep marching on? if somebody didn't do who would and where would arch be then?
i am here EVERYDAY. EVERYDAY since i joined this forum. i have asked and answered questions, i contributed on the irc channel, i worked for the distro everyday for almiost a year. i know what was going what went on. i still point out some thigns to aid the developers. in the end my view of kiss   never really strayed from the documented version of arch's kiss statement  and i felt arch had and was continuing to. there were just too many small things that bothered me and i decided to use another distro.
now that i have moved on though i needed something to keep my desire to help occupied and crux does not have a forum nor can i help out that much on irc because it is distro mainly used by europeans and our clock are just not synced. i still know arch fiarly well and actually crux is very similar so why not help. i have nothing against the community.
why do i get bitter then. well to beat dead horse. i try to help or try to voice an opinion and the response i commonly get back a tirade against my person.  now it is at the point now where some people do not  or refuse to see any constructive or helpful posts i make here.  take al ook at rasat he is someone who has been the victim of many a criticism from me and he never once made any insults towards me nor did he ever not put the blinders on to what i was saying. after nearly a year of taking the odd jab from me he still knows exactly why make the comments towards his projects i do.
in the end i don't really care what he does as his work does bring people to the arch community. i just try and make sure that he can design his projects in such a way as to not create a pile of mindless users that need their hand held through everything.  from what i remember of early versions of hwd for example he made it still a very hands on approach for the user. ultimately that is what  i wanted him to hear and he did.
if you don't think that the system taking control of your work environment is a burden on the community take a look at just how much help we need to give here and on the mail list. if people had come from a more hands on environment they would rarely have to use irc, forums or mail lists. linux is  hard to get used to because it is desigened to be hands on sytem and anyone who does not want this should really not be using it. thats mean but true. with ease comes security risks.
belive me i am lazy i came from the least hands on distro before arch and i would NEVER go back to distro not like arch or crux or ... i have learned alot and there is very few issues i cannot figure out. arch's kiss approach taught me alot and crux has brought me back to it.
in the end i am here to help and if you doubt that then well you just should not bother with any of my posts because i WILL piss you off eventually whether i am trying to or not.