Live Performances with Logic...or not

Hey everybody, Im running logic 7.2 on a powermac G4, and I'm using a onyx analog firewire mixer. Now the question is, can you put on a live show, using the eqs and plug ins on live audio music without that slight output delay. If not is there a certain software you guys would reccomend. Or is all new hardware recommended for this task.

well that is true in some cases, for example a 4
piece band with bass, drums guitar & keys that is
using the backing tracks just to add a few parts
won't suffer much if the computer froze up. but what
about the band that is using it for most of the
music, and the keyboard player is playing the VI's
with his controller. if the computer glitches, there
goes 90% of your music, Time to clap your hands,
stomp your feet and break into "We will rock you"
while the computer reboots.
that is awesome... "We will rock you.... well hold on....we're going to a quick force quit and ..."
I agree. I am just starting to do this 'pure' electronic thing with a friend of mine. I am a bit nervous, but we have 2 separate machines running...If my machine tanks, while I reboot, he'll go bananas to make sure we keep the cacophony at constant level. Or that's the theory at least. If both machines tank, we're going to have to resort to the "every clap your hands like you just don't care" route.
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