Live recording 16 tracks

I just got 2 firestudio projects and im recording 16 tracks live at my bands shows. im using an intel 8400 processor 3 gigs of ram and aa3. everything starts out nice and about 15 minutes or so in, aa3 just stops recording. is there something im doing wrong? please help this dumb dumb and thanx

Don, did you ever figure this out? I'm having the same problems and I'm going to try out these solutions later today to see if any of this works. Here are some other things I'm going to try...so, I've made a list of things for me and others to check when using daisy chained 2x FSP's and audition.
I'm using a dell laptop. so it might be different for people using a different setup, but here are some things I've collected over forums.
1. Disconnect from the internet. (one of the most important and overseen solutions i've concluded)
2. try using onboard firewire or a Firewire "only" card. (people say the firewire/usb combos dont work too well with FSP)
a. Also using a Texas instruments chipset firewire only card
3. Try disabling the onboard usb ports
4. close out all unnecessary programs
5. make sure that when you right click on the record button on the transport, it's set to continuous record.
6. Turn off any screensavers or anything running on a timer or background.
7. try disabling onboard sound card
8. Make sure all firmware and drivers and software are up to date. (winxp users might want to toy with upgrading/downgrading from sp2/sp3)
Let me know if anyone can add to this. And remember, I'm not an expert on this, I'm just regurgitating what I've seen on the presonus forums and here as well as experienced myself first hand.
Thanks,
Ben

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My partner and I live on opposite sides of the valley here in Phoenix. About 50 miles apart one way. We are Musicians and are working on a commercial for television, and would like to know if there is a way, between FaceTime and Logic, that we can configure our MacBook Pro's to record sessions together without having to be at the same house? When we FaceTime, he can hear my keyboard through his headphones, but we can't seem to get the signal routed into Logic and register to a track when its record enabled. Is there a way for us to save gas, and record at seperate locations, so he can engineer me and I can engineer him, while we build this project in Logic and Final Cut? Here is what we are using, we have nearly identicle setups, which was planned so we might be able to do something like this. Both of us are using Mid 2012 15" MacBook Pro's with 2.6GHz Intel i7 processors and 16GB RAM. The only difference between the two MacBooks is that his has an Optical Drive, but I removed mine and replaced it with a 2nd SSD Drive, so I have two Samsung 840 Pro's each with 512GB in my MacBook Pro. His just has one Samsung 840 Pro with 512GB. We both use Focusrite Saffire Liquid 56 Firewire Audio Interfaces, and we both use Logic Studio 9 Academic. I don't know if you need to know what we are using in order to help us figure out how to configure the MacBooks for a live session, so I figured I would give you those details just in case. If you need any more information, just let me know? Oh, we both have high speed cable Internet connections. Mine is 150Mbps speed which is the absolute fastest I can get in my area. And his is only a 50Mbps speed line.
Again, what we are looking to do is have a LIVE recording session, in Logic, with him at his house and me at my house. When we FaceTime each other, we can pretty much hear each others keyboards as if they were part of the conversation, and as crystal clear as we can hear our own when recording, but we can't seem to record enable an Audio track in Logic and route that keyboard signal into Logic and record it so we can engineer each other without either one of us having to drive to the others house, to be there to do it. If any of this even makes sense, I'm not quite sure how to better explain it. So hopefully you get what I mean, otherwise just say so, and I will try to do a better job explaining it. :-)
Anyone who can help us with this little problem would be greatly appreciated, and quite a hero in these two humble Musicians Worlds!! So from both of us, THANK YOU in advance for any input you might be able to give us. I look forward to hearing any and all suggestions.
Scott

Hey Scott
You and ALOT of people are attempting to do this, myself included.
Unfortunately at this point (to my knowledge) it's a pretty CRAP setup involved that will likely leave you frustrated.
HOWEVER:
A few things CAN be done:
IF you are getting live audio from your partner over the internet, you can re-direct that audio directly into Logic using a program called SoundFlower.
There are a few alternatives to SoundFlower, like JackTrip, and.....(the name eludes me)
(SoundFlower is from a company called Cyling 74 who also makes Max MSP. )
Once in Logic, you set your audio inputs to the track to be Soundflower. (either 16 inputs, or in this case 2)
That all being said, regardless to speed, you are still going to experience latency in the connection, and THAT is the part that will likely drive you to the mad house.
THIS all being said, I believe there are websites out there that are set up to actually do this kind of thing, (at least there WERE) but likely membership costs, and other "hidden" problems that you only learn about after you have signed on the dotted line. (Hopefully I am wrong?)
If you don't need to do a "live jam", there are always solutions like DropBox that work very well for exchanging large files quickly.
If you want to record live MIDI input from his keyboard, I am unaware of any solutions for this.
Due to the popularity of the iPad, you might want to look into the App store, and see if there is something available.
Good luck!
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Can anybody help?
I am considering buying a new MAC laptop to run LOGIC for composition and band live/recording, but which one is best as I do not want to spend too much money?
Does it have a line in and how do you monitor sound?
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I see all the upgrades as additional memory or a faster process?
Is a retina screen necessary, and why flash based storage against a 1TB hard drive, and a i5 instead of an i7
The main reason for this purchase is to play live and use backing tracks and record found sounds and make creative songs.
I hope you can provide some valuable feedback, as I am a longtime MAC user and see upgrades and changes happen regularly but the most important thing is the songs not the equipment.
I have £500 already and willing to add another 500 to 700 pounds, then software extra.

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I see all the upgrades as additional memory or a faster process?
Is a retina screen necessary, and why flash based storage against a 1TB hard drive, and a i5 instead of an i7
The main reason for this purchase is to play live and use backing tracks and record found sounds and make creative songs.
I hope you can provide some valuable feedback, as I am a longtime MAC user and see upgrades and changes happen regularly but the most important thing is the songs not the equipment.
I have £500 already and willing to add another 500 to 700 pounds, then software extra.

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okay- help guys. my new ibook freezes after not even a minute of one track live recording and i ge the disk too slow error. i'm using a basic m-audio usb interface with the internal (4200 rpm) hard drive. i know this isn't a fast hard drive, but SURELY. one track? i've been in touch with m audio, reinstalled driver, repaired hard disk permissions. still no good. i only ever need to record two live tracks at a time, but then i do need to stack them up a bit. is my ibook really incapable of that? i'm shocked if it is. anyone want to buy an ibook?
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Adam:
You haven't given a lot of info, but here are a couple of ideas:
1) What sample rate are you using? You should be at 44.1 or 48 kHz. Don't even think of anything higher.
2) Are you recording in a new arrange window? Or are you overdubbing to existing tracks? If so, freeze all your existing tracks.
3) Are you attempting to use any plugins while you're recording? If you are, turn them off for now.
4) How much RAM do you have installed? You need at least 768 MB; more preferably.
5) You're going to need an external drive eventually, but to record one track should be easily done.

Live recording using LS9 help

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I would appreciate if anyone could take me through a step by step process of what would be the best way to set everything up. I would also appreciate some guidance from a DAW point of view if there is anything I should keep in mind.
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Thanks for your reply but I don't understand what you mean. I would be grateful if someone could offer a more in depth process of how to set up what I'm trying to accomplish.
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Hello,
I am seeking any advice about equalizing sound using the graphic equalizer in FCP 5.1, after recording a friends Jug band (acoustic & homemade instruments) at a bandshell outdoor live recording with a single wireless Sennheizer cardiod microphone gaffer taped to the center floor on small stand pointing up. I videotaped it with my Panasonic DVX 100A on both channels and had to fairly boost the gain but got an o.k. level most of the time.
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hey there alchemy,
there's not much you can do, as it seems you started w/ poor mic placement. is this the same curve on both audio channels? if so, try a different curve on one that accentuates the vocal range between 2K-5K, depends on voices-some may be lower, some may be higher- you'll have to play w/ it, that's just a general range for voice & reduce it on the other, then pan one channel more to the right, the other more to the left, also raise the overall level of the audo channel w/ the vocals accentuated/reduce the instrument track. don't have much else in the way of suggestions.
i've done live sound & recording for about 28 years & for the next time get your mic closer to their mouths, if they're all singing into one mic-like what is done w/ traditional bluegrass music, attach/tape yours to that stand if possible, put yours on a floor stand near that one if possible, off the stage in front of them(if the stage isn't too high) or put it on a stand closer to the SR(sound re-inforcement) speaker, but not so close as to blow it's capsule/diaphragm or even ask the audio person if you can get a feed from the board. i've made some quality recordings w/ a stereo pair-for that i like Audio Technica AT-822 or 825 stereo mic, if you have more $$ the Shure VP88. like lighting you may need a variety of tools to get the job done-i have a mic locker that includes a $30.00 Radio Shack stereo mic(no longer made) that does a decent job for the occasional theater shows i shoot for myself/friends w/ my consumer miniDV, but i also have some more expensive $500.00 LDC mics, a range of dynamic/vocal mics & SDC mics as well as a variety of recorders & mixers. check out Shure, AKG & AT websites as they offer info about mics & placement, w/ a slant toward their own gear of course.
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URGENT! Missing audio files from a live recording due to Logic crash

Hi,
yesterday, in the middle of a (low budget) live recording, Logic gave me an error message saying "disk too slow" and stopped recording.
I was using the internal drive. I know this is not a proper habit, but I would have never thought that Logic could complain about the drive slowness with 2 tracks/24bit/44,1khz. Instinctively I pressed * at once but this caused the sequencer to start recording back from bar 1, making the previous 27 minutes of recording disappear, even from the audio files directory.
Is there anything I can do to recover the two AIFF files and avoid lots of swearwords from the customer?

Thanks for the sympathy musicspirit...
About Logic crashing... Actually, Logic didn't "crash", that is, the application didn't quit. It only stopped recording, displaying that "disk too slow". If truth be told, the timeline remained red, it stopped recording the two tracks. Then I pushed the "record" key and it started recording back from bar 1. As soon as I realised that it wasn't displaying the previous 27 minutes of recording anymore, I stopped the transport and something even more strange happened... Logic rendered the overview of the newly recorded two audio regions and started prompting error messages about one of them being an 8-bit audio file. Moreover, I had the Roger Nichols Inspector plugin open and in the meantime it went crazy too, displaying "9999" in the clips/consecutive clips/etc. counter.
I was listening with my headphones plugged into my Fireface and I can tell you that the audio coming from the soundcard was perfect during the Logic "crash". It never stopped, clipped, popped or anything similar.
About the audio path, audio file name... I always double check the audio recording path before starting a recording and it was exactly where it should be.
After the crash I recorded the second part of the gig on an external FW hard drive and everything went smooth. I simply can't find the audio files of the first 27 minutes anywhere on the drive. However I found out pieces of them with Data Rescue II among deleted files, but they are corrupted (interrupted by pink noise and square waves - BTW I plan to save one of them labelling it with "how an audio file dies").
It is really strange that such a powerful program (as Logic is) doesn't save an audio file if for some reasons it stops recording and you press record again...

No sound on record enabled track

When I record enable an audio track the sound is ok, but if I push the play button then the sound on the record enabled track is muted. There is still input on the channel. If I try to record the tarck the sound is ok and even if I press the play button and then record enable the track the sound is ok. Any solutions?
I'm on logic pro 9.1.3 and I'm using RME fireface 800

jaahaa wrote:
When I record enable an audio track the sound is ok, but if I push the play button then the sound on the record enabled track is muted. There is still input on the channel. If I try to record the tarck the sound is ok and even if I press the play button and then record enable the track the sound is ok. Any solutions?
I'm on logic pro 9.1.3 and I'm using RME fireface 800
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Cheers

Splitting live recording is separate sessions

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I have a 16 track live recording as a single session. Now I have to split the session in a separate session for each song. I would like to select the song and create a new session as a copy of the original one. I have tried, but I see no easy way of doing this. In the multitrack editor there is no option to save selected audio to new files/sessios. There is in de waveform editor but not for all 16 channels. Does anyone know a way to do this? I am new to Audition, so maybe I missed some obvious way of doing this. If so, sorry.
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Now I'll be the first to admit that I haven't tried this in the latest release, but it should still work fine. I posted it originally on the AudioMasters forum, but I don't mind repeating it here.
Anyway, I think that the most space-effective way of doing this is to highlight the time section you want (ie, each song), and make sure that all 16 tracks are selected along it. You then split all of the highlighted tracks, which the 'split' command will do vertically to all of the selected tracks, and drag this split section to the next 16 tracks down, using the right mouse button, and using the 'create unique copy' option when you paste them. You save these shortened tracks, and repeat the operation for as many new songs as you need to. Oh, and you have to have the correct cursor selected for this to work easily as well...
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I record multiple tracks (3-5) from real instruments and vocals. I want to send these files to a collaborator to add more tracks to, but Garageband wants to mix these down (which I don't want). How can I send the multiple tracks files to my friend?

I record multiple tracks of real instruments and vocals wth Garage Band. I want to share the file with a collaborator so he can add another instrument or two. I have not found a way to do this without the process mixing down the tracks. I don't want them mixed down like when I send them to Itunes. Also I can't seem to just attach a file directly to an email for sending purposes. I thought I saw a method to do this with software instruments, but how do you do it with real instruments? I've tried every process on the "export" list to try to accomplish this, without success. Thanks for any breakthrough advice on this!

As isteveus said - for large projects uploading to a server would be best.
Also I can't seem to just attach a file directly to an email for sending purposes.
But for completeness's sake , you cou can mail a project, if you ctrl-click the project and use "Compress xxx.band". This will compress the project and create a zip file, that you can mail (if it is not too large). But ask your friend for the maximal file size allowed as a mail attachment.
But whichever method you use to share your project, be sure you include all loops and instruments, if your friend does not have the same JamPacks installed. You can bundle the loops into the project by saving it as an archive. "File > Save as" and check the "Archive Project" option.
If this option should be disabled, you can force it to become active by editing your project slightly. It is only available, if the project needs saving.
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I posted this same questions a couple of months ago without any reply.
I desperatly need help.
Best regards
Kristjan

Not RAM related.
Record tracks have to be set for individual inputs.
If all your tracks are set to record on inputs 1-2 or Mono 1, Mono 2 you will only have two inputs.
Make sure Universal Track Mode IS selected in Preferences/Audio and that you indeed have the correct audio driver selected. Now go to your tracks and see how many inputs you have available. If you're recording mono tracks set audio tracks 1 and 2 to record using inputs 1 and 2, Audio tracks 3 and 4 to use inputs 3 and 4, stereo tracks will use both inputs.
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Garageband is not picking sound from builtin mic (rMBP).
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avotrans wrote:
I'm trying to expand the number of tracks to 24 by daisy-chaining three firestudio devices.
you'll need to create an aggregate device:
http://www.bulletsandbones.com/GB/GBFAQ.html#multipleaudiointerfaces
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