Live text rendering is slow

When I create a Live Text template and insert it into my Premier timeline the render time is very long. For a :05 simple text reveal the render is over a few minutes. If I don't use it as a template but just a dynamic link comp then the render is only 10-15 seconds. I also find the render slows to a crawl at times but if I cycle to After Effects and back to Premier the render seems to get faster. Not sure why.
To avoid the rendering I tried to create a Title graphic to speed the process but it appears a mask or graduated background can't be incorporated into a background graphic inserted in Title.
Is anyone else experiencing this?

I find if it isn't open then the links are often lost. I always have to open the AE project prior to loading the Premiere project.

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Started using Live Text Templates which in theory seem really great but they are SOOOOO slow to update.
So I create a simple 5 sec title with two text elements which simply fade in at the start and fade out at the end. The back ground is plain colored shape.
I put this in to premiere, open it in the source panel and update my two text elements
I put this title into an empty timeline - if I move the play head over the clips in the timeline it can take up to 60 seconds before the clip shows the correct text
I then change the text in the master clip (title).
Going back to the time line it takes about 1-2 minutes before I can view the changes in the timeline - either by just putting the playhead over the clip or actually playing the timeline. It will either show a black frame or the previous text.
If the sequence contains other content then after changing text in the master clip the whole timeline will just show a black frame in the program panel for about 30-60 seconds then I can view this other content but have to wait a further 30-60 seconds before I see the updated title text.
Its very slow and far from live. Anyone know if there is something I can change somewhere to speed this up? What is happening behind the scenes to allow Premiere to effectively render out this titles? If I actually render the title in the timeline it only take a few seconds so no reason it should take so long for Premiere to do it in the background.

Good question that I ask myself also, but not just updating Titles. Same time lag for updating a Photoshop image that sits inside Premiere, or updating an After Effects composition inside Premiere.
Sometimes I think I can 'trick it' into speeding up by 'saving' the Premiere project, but then most times I think I am tricking myself.

{text-rendering : optimizeLegibility} turns off google webfont in DW CS6 live preview (suddenly)

I'm currently working on two websites for the UN, based on Wordpress, child themes based on twentytwelve and twentythirteen.
I started to work a certain time ago on the child theme for 2012 which uses "Open Sans" fonts.
I don't remember having any problem with this site: everything was working ok, I made a few changes but nothing important.
I turned to the nd website based on 2013-theme, it works perfectly and DW CS6 is a real time saver for creating a child-theme, nonetheless...
This morning I turned back to the 2012-based wordpress site: every text was simply not displayed anymore... only in live preview in DW...
Even with the parent theme, the text was siply not displayed (so don't suggest my css code is bugged or what...)
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Commenting out this declaration solved the problem. Nonetheless...
1 month ago there was no problem. Then suddenly...
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TIA

Hello Nancy!
Normally, according to https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/text-rendering Gecko could take it in charge too, but seems to override this setting (a thing I can understand, Gecko is using a fast rendering engine). So you're right: at this time, it can impact only webkit/chromium engines. Which, as far as I know is the underlying engine(s) behind "Live Preview". And it does impact readibility in DW CC (it improves it).
Personnally I'ls better stick to the real CSS properties for kerning, alternative uppercases and ligatures, BUT the wordpress team seemed to think it was a good idea to use it (along with many other strange ideas such as using rem unit for the layout).
The real thing here is: some weeks ago, when I started to tune the 2012-based theme I use for this site, I'm pretty sure I was able to read the text in Live Preview in DW CS6. I wouldn't have chosen to use this theme with such an annoyance, else. So basically, it's really strange that suddenly this property has such an impact on the "live preview" mode of DW CS6. What I would really appreciate here is a small update/bugfix to DW CS6: I don't need this property to be taken in charge in DW CS6 as it is done in DW CC, I'ld just want this property not to impact the live preview.
Last : I mentionned an update of DWCC being possibly a culprit for this. How relevant could be this statement ? Are "live preview" modes shared by DW CC and DW CS6 ? (Even if, of course, this "bug" is not happening with DWCC).
PS: Thanks a lot Nancy to pay attention to my posts as I often yell a lot here.

Live text template render issue when using Media Encoder?

I'm running into flash frames with Media Encoder exports of Premiere sequences using the live text templates.
Unfortunately, AME doesn't flag it as an error, so the render completes without any issues in the render log and the only way to find it is to watch the rendered file.
I have tried different combinations of having After Effects open or closed, with the live text template comp open or closed; I can't consistently reproduce the problem with any certainty and so am having trouble pinpointing the source.
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It might happen more frequently on longer segments? If a title is up for 45 sec instead of 10 sec, it may be more likely to pop.
The issue seems to occur more often in batch renders out of AME (happened to 3 of 5 files rendered in a batch, AME 2014.1) and/or with unrelated AE comps open (on a single render from AME 2014.2)
Again, it doesn't happen every time or to the same title, or in the same spot. Files are being rendered to ProRes 422 HQ. Unchecked "Use Previews" in AME.
Would be nice to get to the bottom of what's happening so I can recommend something to the editors when I hand off these live text templates to them.
I realize that the live text is a new feature as of 2014.1, but haven't found anyone else talking about this. Would love if this was a very simple fix that I'm missing.
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I'm running into flash frames with Media Encoder exports of Premiere sequences using the live text templates.
Unfortunately, AME doesn't flag it as an error, so the render completes without any issues in the render log and the only way to find it is to watch the rendered file.
I have tried different combinations of having After Effects open or closed, with the live text template comp open or closed; I can't consistently reproduce the problem with any certainty and so am having trouble pinpointing the source.
My only hypotheses so far are that:
The glitches seem to be happening in the dynamic link between AME and PP, not AE and PP. The live text will pop back to the duplicated comp's text for one frame. Video playing simultaneously doesn't pop.
In other words, the AE text template said: "name here". In PP it was edited to say "John Doe", then that comp was duplicated and edited to say "Bob Smith". Everything looks fine in PP. There are no keys on the source text in AE (I have noticed that if there are keys on the source text in AE, the text will pop back to the original AE text at that key in PP).
When rendered out of AME, halfway through Bob Smith's title, it will read "John Doe" for a single frame, then pop back to being Bob.
I've only had this happen so far with AME renders. The renders out of PP haven't given me any issues so far.
It might happen more frequently on longer segments? If a title is up for 45 sec instead of 10 sec, it may be more likely to pop.
The issue seems to occur more often in batch renders out of AME (happened to 3 of 5 files rendered in a batch, AME 2014.1) and/or with unrelated AE comps open (on a single render from AME 2014.2)
Again, it doesn't happen every time or to the same title, or in the same spot. Files are being rendered to ProRes 422 HQ. Unchecked "Use Previews" in AME.
Would be nice to get to the bottom of what's happening so I can recommend something to the editors when I hand off these live text templates to them.
I realize that the live text is a new feature as of 2014.1, but haven't found anyone else talking about this. Would love if this was a very simple fix that I'm missing.
I was able to reproduce the error on 2 different machines, with similar specs:
Premiere CC 2014.1 and 2014.2
Media Encoder CC 2014.1 and 2014.2
Mac tower 2010
2x 6-core Intel Xeon
RAM: 64 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5770 and NVidia Quadro K5000 (or K4000)
OS: 10.8.5 Mountain Lion

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