Live updating to smart playlists on iPhone 3GS is gone!

Why won't it work anymore? Please!

You never know. Maybe I get lucky and this gets read by someone from Apple that is actually an iPhone user.

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IOS update still did NOT fix the live updating to smart playlist on iPhone

I updated to the brand new iOS 4.1 today, and I am still having an issue that has made me upset for the past few months. For years and years I have been able to use smart playlists that have live updated on my iPods and iPhones without problems. Recently, within the past few months of software updates, my smart playlists have stopped live updating.
Here are two examples I'm talking about:
1. I have a smart playlist of music that I call Unrated for iPhone. The smart playlists requirements are that it has no star rating and that it is limited to 500 MB. I used to be able to rate songs on my iPhone, and they would get removed from the playlist automatically within my iPhone without having to sync it with my desktop. Now, as I rate those songs on my iPhone, they stay on the unrated list.
2. I have another playlist called 5*'s least recent. The requirements for this smart playlist are that the songs have 5 stars, and they are limited to the 75 least recently played songs. Songs used to be removed from that list once they were played. Now, they stay on that list until I sync my iPhone to my desktop.
What happened to live updating? Is anybody else experiencing this problem? I have loved this feature for years and now there is a bug! Has anybody brought up this topic before? Because I couldn't find any solutions.

FYI, I've found that Live Updating can SORT OF work. It seems if you only have two rules, live upating works (IE, I have one that is a Rating must be 3-5*'s and last played cannot be within the last 8 weeks). Once the song is played it disapears off the playlist. BUT, as soon as I try to add a third rule, it doesn't work anymore! This is unfortunate because two rules really limits the ability of the playlist...
Cheers,

What the h*** happened to Live Updating of smart playlists in iT 11? I have several smart lists that pull from larger lists based on how recently a song has played. Not happening now. The whole library only updates "last played"

What the h*** happened to Live Updating of smart playlists in iT 11? I have several smart lists that pull from larger lists based on how recently a song has played. Not happening now. The whole library only updates "last played" for about 1 in 20 songs. This is really screwing up my lists that I use as backgrounds for a lot of activities in my classroom at school.

FYI, I've found that Live Updating can SORT OF work. It seems if you only have two rules, live upating works (IE, I have one that is a Rating must be 3-5*'s and last played cannot be within the last 8 weeks). Once the song is played it disapears off the playlist. BUT, as soon as I try to add a third rule, it doesn't work anymore! This is unfortunate because two rules really limits the ability of the playlist...
Cheers,

Iphone not live updating my smart playlists

I had the old original iphone then upgraded to the 3G S. When i had my original, it came with pre-set smart lists that updated automatically (like literally the second u changed the rating to 5 stars, that song appeared in ur top rated list). Well as u know the 3G S doesn't come with said lists. Further more when i tried to create those smart lists on my own, they do not update at ALL!! I've tried to make one that was a top 25, recently added, and top rated, and none of these have worked at all....
Is there a way to NOT have to connect ur iphone to ur computer for these lists to update?? also if i rate them 5 stars on my computer it works but not when i do it only on my phone.. i dont want to have to plug it all the **** time when i change my mind about wanting a song on my playlist.
somebody please help!!

The only way to change the iPhone music content is by syncing to the computer. The sole exception to that is the On The Go playlist. Smart playlists only update when you sync.
If they are not updating correctly, see this: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3044

After 3 years, tried live updating of smart playlist again. Still broken.

I mean that lists like "Music I haven't listend to recently" do not remove songs on the fly when I listen songs. Last time some special rules were a problem, like "album rating", or "skipped" or "is/not podcast". It worked if I avoided those rules. I did not research the details this time. Although all my rules are really old, so they should have been fixed by now. (Old, but a complex set of ten smart playlists, all live updating and the "main" list built from the others.)
Here is my speculation from 2009:
Generally any RECENT iTunes smart playlist RULE TYPES that Apple has introduced in iTunes, but failed to update to iOS Music Player seem to be the problem. The iOS device can not understand a new iTunes rule unless somebody hard codes it to a new iOS version which is then updated to your iPod. And the live update is disabled, if iOS does not recognize a rule that iTunes has.
Why, oh, why don't they just define a scripting language to implement the smart lists, with primitives that can read any meta-data fields on a media file, and compare strings, numbers and dates? Then a new rule type would just mean a different script synced to iPhone, not re-programming the Music Player?
Or what gives, tell me?

FYI, I've found that Live Updating can SORT OF work. It seems if you only have two rules, live upating works (IE, I have one that is a Rating must be 3-5*'s and last played cannot be within the last 8 weeks). Once the song is played it disapears off the playlist. BUT, as soon as I try to add a third rule, it doesn't work anymore! This is unfortunate because two rules really limits the ability of the playlist...
Cheers,

Live Updating mangles smart playlist sync - again and forever?

For the last several itunes updates, setting a smart playlist to Live Update causes the order of playlist items to become mangled on synced deviceL
Unchecking the Live Updating restores the proper order to the items on the synced device.
Its a huge pain if you desire to set up podcast play order on your iphone so you don't have to play DJ in your car.
It was a problem a long time ago, and there was a kludgy workaround. Then they fixed it. And 2 versions of iTunes later it came back, and the workaround didn't work that time. It now appears to be a permanent bug, and apparently nobody cares at Apple.
Here's a wonderful example of how longstanding this bug is:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/11396625#11396625
This one is even more pathetic, going back to 2009:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/10168181#10168181
There are many, many, other threads complaining about this issue so I've lost faith that Apple will care or try to fix it.
There has always been the occasional bug or error with Apple hardware/software; nobody's perfect - but they used to make an effort to fix things in a timely manner. At least they used to think the perception of attention to detail was important for marketing purposes.
Now, they are apparently content to Pareto Principle their products becuase they have the mass sales and a giant customer base that will accept 'just good enough' products.
So sad to see the decline of such a once great company.

FYI, I've found that Live Updating can SORT OF work. It seems if you only have two rules, live upating works (IE, I have one that is a Rating must be 3-5*'s and last played cannot be within the last 8 weeks). Once the song is played it disapears off the playlist. BUT, as soon as I try to add a third rule, it doesn't work anymore! This is unfortunate because two rules really limits the ability of the playlist...
Cheers,

I tried to update the software of my iphone 3gs while charging with my Macbook Pro. While the phone was restarting after installation, in the setting up my phone menu, it stops midway with a message in itunes on the laptop that there is no simcard.

I tried to update the software of my iphone 3gs while charging with my Macbook Pro. While the phone was restarting after installation, in the setting up my phone menu, it stops midway with a message in itunes on the laptop that there is no simcard.

Then put a SIM in. You cannot activate an iPhone without a compatible Sim.
If your iPhone was hacked/jailbroken the update restore the lock.

Cannot activate my viber after i update to 6.1.3 iphone 3gs..can u please help me...the the code is ok but if i activate...its being error.

cannot activate my viber after i update to 6.1.3 iphone 3gs..can u please help me...the the code is ok but if i activate...its being error.

@theViberTeam .
I'm having trouble with Viber.
A few days ago, I accidentally uninstalled it on my IPhone 4, and reinstalled it later on..
When I tried sending the activation code using the same cell phone number I had on Viber before It got uninstalled, I receive the code but when I try to put it in it keeps saying that I entered the wrong activation code, I click on the no code feature on the top right corner of Viber, it gives me a code, but when I put that code in it says the same thing ,that I have the wrong access code please try again, and so I researched on the internet and came up to this post, It said to uninstall viber and wait 24 hours to install it again, I waited 24hours and tried it again, but it STILL does the same thing. and... I even tried entering my other phone number, yet it does the same thing and shows me the same message that I entered the wrong access code....It is getting frustrating! May you please Help ME?! What can I do??

HT4623 How can I retrieve my Contacts that I lost after updating iOs 6 on my iPhone 3GS through wifi?

I lost all my Contacts after updating iOS 6 on my iPhone 3GS through wifi. All my other apps, Notes, Photos, etc are as it is but none of my Contacts appear. I also signed up to iCloud during the update but can't find Contacts on iClouds. Pls help!

It is strange people experience this problem only with Contacts because normally contacts are backed up with Notes and Photos and that stuff. If you are willing to do a do-over, you can try to backup, restore, and put your data back on again and see if anything new appears. You never know if some file clould have had some kind of conflict because iOS 6 was being installed while data was being restored at the same time.

HT1801 Just wondering, does iTunes update my Smart playlist with new songs?

Does iTunes update my Smart playlist with new songs each time I download it or do I have to manually update it myself? If I do, can someone walk me through it. Thanks a bunch

Yes that should work.
Are you using an "Artist is ..." rule? If so, and if new stuff by onerepublic isn't showing up in the list, check the Artist name on the new songs to make sure it's exactly matching the one in your rule.
For example, I've got music in my library (by the same people) under the artist names Godspeed You Black Emperor! and Godspeed You! Black Emperor ... (different position of the "!") If I set up a smart playlist based on:
Artist is Godspeed You Black Emperor!
It doesn't catch the songs with an Artist name of "Godspeed You! Black Emperor".
To get all the songs showing in a smart playlist, I'd need to adjust the Artist name on one or the other sets of songs so it matches a rule. (Haven't done that myself yet for GYBE, because I haven't worked out where the exclamation mark is actually supposed to go.)

My Iphone 3gs had gone black in 2012. I had 6.0.3 version. I tried and eventually gave up. Today I am trying again. Any solutions now?

My Iphone 3gs had gone black in 2012. I had 6.0.3 version. I tried and eventually gave up. Today I am trying again. Any solutions now?

What troubleshooting steps have you already tried?
Restart?
Reset?
Reset All Settings?
Restore from a backup?
Restore as new?

'Playlist is' criteria breaks Smart Playlists on iPhone 3G?

I am using the 'Last Played and' 'Playlist is' criteria for my 3G's Smart Playlist. This method works great in iTunes but does not seem to update on the 3G. Essentially, the music track I just played does not remove itself from the playlist.
Using 'Playlist is', I have tried to target static and smart playlists. Neither work.
Interestingly 'Last Played' does update when used by itself on the 3G.
Has anyone seen this behavior and is there a work-around?
many thanks in advance
Graham

I am having the same issue. It's really frustrating trying to figure out what criteria will or will not break the live updating of the smart playlists on the iPhone 3G. Is there a maximum number of critera you can specify? Please Apple could you document this?

3.1.3 Software Update and Smart Playlists with Podcasts

I did the 3.1.3 update last night and now my smart playlist containing podcasts is gone.
Has anyone else seen this behavior?
Any idea on a fix?
Thanks

For whatever it's worth, 3.1.3 appears to have fixed my problems with Smart Playlists...
In 3.1 and 3.1.2 I'd get the same contents of a Smart Playlist between iTunes and the iPhone, but a very different order.
e.g. I have my Podcasts smart playlist set to order by ascending publish date. A bit annoying because I wouldn't get them played back in chronological order on the iPhone, but only an annoyance.
Now since applying 3.1.3 - with no mods to filters or Live Updating I might add - they've back to showing the right order on the iPhone as well as on iTunes. Which is a relief. Long may it continue!
PS: I did also update iTunes to 9.0.3... I don't suppose this would help those on the list having troubles would it?

Ipod playlist on iphone 3GS 4.3.2

After updating my iphone 3gs to 4.3.2, the ipod does not play all the songs in the playlist. It just repeatedly plays the one song that I select and does not move forward..

You have repeat on.
you can see this in the manual:
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/iphone_user_guide.pdf
Play a song, tap the screen, then tap the repeat icon until it is white =off

Smart playlist on iphone doesn't display all songs in "list" view

So first, how I organize my mp3s, so you understand how I do things.
I have one "main" smart playlist that I use. It's only rule is to only include songs that are a part of a certain album.
I then edit every song I want in that playlist to be in that album.
In iTunes, this playlist has 136 songs. When I sync, ALL of them transfer, and ALL of them are on the phone.
When I play the playlist on the phone, ALL of them do play. I can cycle through all 136 of them.
My problem is this: When I enter the "playlist view" (I dont know what it's called, but THIS view: http://i.imgur.com/z4ZIK.jpg ), not all songs display anymore. I used to have all 136 songs displaying, and I could scroll to any of them to play. Now, its split up in chunks. What I mean by that is, maybe 20 songs are displayed, and if the playlist random shuffles to a song in the playlist but NOT part of that 20, that song may be a part of, say, 6 other songs in the playlist, or it may be solo in that view. All the songs still play, all 136, they're all still on the playlist and shuffle WILL play them all eventually, but they do NOT all appear in this "playlist view" (again, I dont know exactly what its called, but I'm talking about this screen: http://i.imgur.com/z4ZIK.jpg ). There also seems to be no pattern as to what songs are displayed. I have no idea why they're seperated in chunks like this.
Why don't all my 136 songs appear on this screen anymore? I thought maybe the phone or itunes is sorting them differently now, maybe by album art or something, so I made sure ALL songs are COMPLETELY IDENTICAL in terms of info aside from song name and artist name. ALL songs have the same artwork, album, album artist, grouping, composer, comments, they are ALL set to "part of a compliation" (I have also tried setting them all to NOT be part of complilation).
All I want is all 136 songs in my playlist to be displayed on that screen. It used to, but as of maybe a few months ago it started doing this. I'm not sure if I explained the problem correctly but that's the best I can do.

Well, the saga continues (some people must be getting a laugh at me talking to myself).
Turns out my PlayList which was supposed to read...
- Genre is Ambient
- Media Kind is Music
- Last Play is not in the last 60 days
- Limit to 1 hour selected by random
- Live Updating
... actually said "- Last Play *is* in the last 60 days"
When I changed that and resync'd it worked, however it still doesn't explain why the two playlists (iTunes and iPod) were totally different.
Oh well. Thanks for being my shrink for the day and letting me vent.

Live updating to smart playlists on iPhone 3GS is gone!

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