Live View not rendering in CS5

I have tried to use Live View to test my php code and have literally only put a line of php code in the body of my html which is
<?php
echo "This date is generated by php code ";
echo date ('d F, Y');
?>
Live View is processing but does not render the output but when I preview in browser it works just fine.   There is nothing to it ie. no pictures or css etc so I cannot understand why it does not output.  Please can anybody offer some advice, I am using CS5?  Thank you.

Hi Randy, thanks for your reply.  My file and extension is index.php with only that one line of code in for me to test.  I am using MAMP and my servers are on.  I have noticed that when I select the Live View Button, my page begins to render in the bottom right corner of the screen and the Address Bar changes from
localhost/testSite/index.php
to
localhost/testSite/TMPNZA6CQ.php
but then nothing appears in the Design Window to show the result of my php code ie. The Date.
However, when I preview in browser - the page displays as it should.  It looks like there is a bug with my Live View in DW CS5.
Has anyone else had this problem?
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Y

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