Livetype Title Render Quality

I currently am trying to render some livetype titles in FCE, and for some reason, the fonts look a bit blurred and interlaced in the canvas preview window.
I did print to video and took it over to a television and the titles looked fine, however here's my question: What if I am using FCE to create a video for the web? On all the computers I have checked this video, the titles do not look "professional." Is there any way that I can remedy this?

Tom (and Nick),
Thanks to this thread I've had one of those "A ha!" moments when everything falls into place (I hope).
I've wondered why there are frequently posts regarding "Livetype Quality", etc, yet others don't have these problems?
Often the user is referring to the quality of the display in the Canvas in FCE/FCP. Responses are often along the lines of "The Canvas and computer monitor are not capable of displaying the same quality as a TV Monitor can, etc and you should always check output on a TV Monitor", etc.
This makes sense since a TV Monitor is interlaced and (I think) the canvas drops a field in it's display (at least when not set to 100%)
However, I don't think that's the real problem some of these people are having. As Tom mentioned, it's all down to the codec.
I bet these users are working in the DV codec which unfortuntely just can't do what Livetype is capable of in the Animation codec.
Unfortuantely, those replying are probably pros and are working in better codecs than DV, such as uncompressed 8-bit, etc and therefore the degradation isn't as great for them. They aren't having the issue due to this.
I think perhaps someone should make a sticky of this codec limitation, since issues with Livetype/Motion Quality come up all the time and I bet a lot of the time it's nothing to do with the user mis-interpreting what the Canvas displays over a TV monitor, but to do with the user working with DV.
Add to that sticky this excellent post by Kevin Monahan over at Kenstone's site:
http://www.kenstone.net/cgi/discussions/general.cgi?noframes;read=60455#60455
===============QUOTE=========================
•Are you monitoring your graphics properly as you work on a decent pro video monitor?
•Have you checked the dark green "FULL" bar in the Sequence>Render menus before rendering?
•Have you enabled the RT Pop up menu to "Safe RT" and Full Quality?
•Is your Motion Filtering Quality set to "Best" in your User Prefs>Render Control?
•Is your Render Quality set to 100%?
•Are your graphics placed on whole, even X, Y integers?
•Are you placing the Wireframes in different positions rather than moving the point controls in the Controls Tab?
•Are you using the poorer quality "legacy" FCP title generators? (You should be using Title 3D instead).
•Do you know how to properly prepare graphics in Photoshop?
===============END QUOTE=======================

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