Load-balancing by application version

Hi there. I have a pair of CSS-11501's that I'm using for load-balancing incoming connections for a specific software application. We have 2 versions of the software that connect to the same TCP port on the server side. Is there any way to have the CSS distinguish between the application versions so I can direct traffic to different clusters based on version, without the customer knowing?

no way with the CSS.
The CSS can understand http but not other applications.
The ACE module in its next software release will be able to catch data on any application and make an action like loadbalance with it.
Gilles.

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Ajay Kumar is a customer support engineer in the Cisco Technical Assistance Center in Brussels, covering content delivery network technologies including Cisco Application Control Engine, Cisco Wide Area Application Services, Cisco Content Switching Module, Cisco Content Services Switches, and others. He has been with Cisco for more than four years, working with major customers to help resolve their issues related to content products. He holds DCASI and VCP certifications.
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I will try to clarify your doubts.
In the output below both resources (proxy-connections and ssl-connections rate) are configured with a min percentage of resources (column Min), while 'Max' is set to equal to the min.
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-- outputs omitted for brevity --
proxy-connections             0      16358      16358      16358      17872
ssl-connections rate          0        626        626        626      23204
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I appended the Cookie lines you mentioned in httpd.conf located in $ORACLE_HOME/Apache/Apache/conf in both machines B and C.
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Raffy

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2. Configuration of Site definitions
3. Configuration of Site to server mapping
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But even after these changes IÂ´m getting FRM-92101 error on the same conditions.
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([email protected])

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o     Management
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Daniel Brody
[email protected]

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Dear all,
We are going to setup following SharePoint farm:
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