Load sharing/balancing between 2 Service Providers

Hi,
I have a scenario where I have the following and this is repeated at different sites globally.
CE1-----------PE1_SP1---MPLS cloud
|
CE1---standby--PE2_SP1---MPLS cloud
CE2-----------PE1_SP2----MPLS Cloud
|
CE2---standby--PE2_SP2---MPLS Cloud
2 different service providers and we require load sharing/balancing to both SP1 and SP2.
If either of the SP's PE router is down it should bring up the standby link.
2 ASN, not sure if I can load share different prefixes in this scenario.
Will the applications fail?
Will the traffic flow be symmetric ?
Any help is very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Paul

Hello Paul,
if you are using a single CE router on each site.
to get load-balancing on your CEx:
router bgp X
maximum-paths 2
eBGP load-balancing is easier so 2 ISP ASN is fine
Verify that you have flow based load-balancing and everything should be fine.
Notice that you have a failure on site N of provider1 you can be able to detect it in all remote sites only if they are receiving the routes of all the sites. If receiving a default route there's no way for other sites to detect the failure.
If receiving all the prefixes after MP-BGP convergence in ISP1 site N's prefixes will be withdrawn and will be reachable only via ISP2.
To use an active/standby
on all Cex
router bgp x
neighbor PE-ISP1 weigth 500
neighbor PE-ISP1 fast-external-fallover
in this way until a prefix is present in ISP1 MP-BGP traffic is sent via ISP1
If using two CE in each site things are a little more complex and you need an iBGP session between them.
Hope to help
Giuseppe

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