Loading point optimization

Hi,
My client wants to schedule the loading point and loading time automatically. For example, if the loading time is 4 hours and if you create two sales orders continuously, then it should propose the loading time with the gap of 4 hours during delivery schedule in order to eliminate the unnecessary waiting time of trucks. How to achieve this. Pl share your inputs.
Regards
Sankar

Hello Sankar
You may resort to delivery scheduling- see below- and maintain loading time for the Shipping Point in hours. Let me caution you that SAP is not a scheduler/Optimizer though.
SPRO/IMG/Sales and Distribution/Basic Functions/Delivery Scheduling and Transportation Scheduling

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Hi Swami,
Although not recommended you can still use infopackages if you want in BI 7.x. The introduction of the DTP was to overcome some disadvantages of using infopackages up to and including release 3.x to load the data targets (especially with datamarts where one infopackage loads several data targets,
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Authorisation object to the loading point

Hi, Experts,
As per the requirement we have configured the Weigh Bridges as loading points from where the TRUCK empty and Gross weights can be taken to create the delivery and these loading points were assigned to multiple shipping points. Again each Shipping point also assigned to multiple loading points.each weigh bridge i.e. the loading point is being operated by the end user.As the shipping point is assigned to multiple loading points, system is allowing the user to select any one of the loading point assigned to that shipping point.
Now, my requirement is to restrict the end user to operate one loading point only by providing authorisation object for that loading point. what is the authorisation object for the loading point.
Regards
Sam

the loading point is being operated by the end user
Through which transaction code, users are executing this loading point. I think, the authorization object for this is L_YRD_MTHD
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Shipping Point Vs Loading Point

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Hi,
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Use
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shipping conditions
loading groups
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Procedure
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Thanks & Regards
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Transportation planning pt. and loading points

Hi Experts,
How many Transportation planning pt. and loading points is to be maintained?
Is it to be maintained according to plants?
Thanks in advance
Regards,
shabnum

Dear Shabnum
The transportation planning point is an organizational unit in Logistics, responsible for planning and processing transportation activities.
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How to update loading point using a BAPI

Does anyone know how to update loading point in a delivery using a BAPI / function module like BAPI_OUTB_DELIVERY_CHANGE. We could populate loading point in the structure for function module ws_delivery_update2. But it does not update the loading point.
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Edited by: Satyanarayana Tiruveedhi on Mar 13, 2009 6:11 AM

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Loading point

Hi,
Can a shipping point be assigned to many loading points?
Thank you.

Yes shipping points can be assigned with as many loading points as possible and all the loading points are specific to that shipping points. The relation is one to many. All the loading points are unique to that shipping point.
Regards
AK
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Loading point - issue

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Failed in the execution of the ODCIINDEXINSERT routine while loading points

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SQL*Loader: Release 11.2.0.1.0 - Production on Fri Oct 12 10:17:57 2012
Copyright (c) 1982, 2009, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
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fields terminated by ","
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ROUTE_NUMBER,RUN_NUMBER,VEHICLE_NUMBER,BADGE_NUMBER,
TRIP_DIRECTION,GPS_LONGITUDE_NUMBER,GPS_LATITUDE_NUMBER,DIVISION_NUMBER,
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Copyright (c) 1982, 2009, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
Control File:   Load_Vehicle_Locations_2.ctl
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Bad File:     CIS_VehLoc_L05120603gps.bad
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Number to skip: 0
Errors allowed: 50
Continuation:    none specified
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VEHICLE_LOCATION_MESSAGE_ID                               CONSTANT
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MESSAGE_DATETIME                    FIRST     *   ,       DATE YYYY-MM-DD HH24:MI:SS
ROUTE_NUMBER                         NEXT     *   ,       CHARACTER
RUN_NUMBER                           NEXT     *   ,       CHARACTER
VEHICLE_NUMBER                       NEXT     *   ,       CHARACTER
BADGE_NUMBER                         NEXT     *   ,       CHARACTER
TRIP_DIRECTION                       NEXT     *   ,       CHARACTER
GPS_LONGITUDE_NUMBER                 NEXT     *   ,       CHARACTER
GPS_LATITUDE_NUMBER                  NEXT     *   ,       CHARACTER
DIVISION_NUMBER                      NEXT     *   ,       CHARACTER
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Y                                    NEXT     *   ,       CHARACTER
*** End of fields in VEHICLE_LOCATION.SDO_POINT
*** End of fields in VEHICLE_LOCATION
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0 Rows not loaded due to data errors.
0 Rows not loaded because all WHEN clauses were failed.
0 Rows not loaded because all fields were null.
Date cache:
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   Hits    :     44808
   Misses :         0
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Column array rows :    5000
Stream buffer bytes: 256000
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Total logical records skipped:          0
Total logical records rejected:         0
Total logical records discarded:        0
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Total stream buffers loaded by SQL*Loader load thread:        9
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Also, when I don't use "DIRECT=yes" loading in the control file, then SQL*Loader loads all records with no errors, but it takes hours which is too long.
I want to avoid to have to drop the spatial index every morning before the data loading process, because it is a very large table and it takes 45-60 minutes to recreate that index partition, and that much time delay is not good.
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Hi Milan,
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CarlT

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Dear Sap Gurus,
In shipping point, to determine load time, there are four criteria in detrmining load time.
in that what is route dependent loading time, and route independent loading time.
divya

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2. How long an audio clip is sensible for this purpose?
3. Am i right in thinking that iweb converts mp3 into .mov files? If so, does this make a problem in terms of speed of loading.
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I've been going around and around with this issue - I know that in addition to the DM, I need tohave the OS installed on my laptop. So, I've installed, uninstalled, etc.., etc, deleted teh Vendor xml. pulled the battery and put it back in - still get the message - So, I've bought software, unzipped it into a folder, and the app loader still doesn't "see" the .alx file.
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Solved!
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I just reread your post. Are you updating to a new OS?
What software did you buy? A third party app?
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ODS to CUBE loading - taking too much time

Hi Experts,
I am loading data from R/3(4.7) to BW (3.5).
I am loading with option --> PSA and then Data Target (ODS ).
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It takes me 20 mins to load 300K records.
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Hi,
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2. Check if there are complex routines/transformations being performed in any layer. In that case see if you can optimize those codes with the help of an abaper.
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Check this doc on BW data load perfomance optimization
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/1955ba90-0201-0010-d3aa-8b2a4ef6bbb2
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