Local white balance adjustment tool

I really like the new local white balance adjustment tool. If I could change something will be to give a real color temperature to the tool instead of a number from -100 to 100. Let me give you an example of how I used it today.
I forgot to bring some gels for my flashes for a photo shoot. I was using the flashes to illuminate the foreground and I had fluorescent lightening on the background. It was the perfect opportunity to try the new tool. I knew exactly what the color temperature for both front and back were. I applied the background color temperature of 3200k to the picture and when to locally change the foreground. At this point I was guessing what it should be at. My monitor is color calibrated but I was under fluorescent lights with my laptop. Instead I could have added +2200k or dialed 5500k to the local adjustment tool.
Please let me know if you need more information.

I'm sorry I found another discussion about this topic already. Shame on me I didn't do a more thorough search on it before.
You can find that discussion here
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4138582#4138582

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White Balance Adjustment question

I have about 800 images from a wedding, and am now ready to go thru them and adjust the white balance.
However, am I missing something?
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But, when I go to the next image, I have to THEN click on white balance AGAIN then the dropper, then the image etc etc etc???!!!
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So, I wanted to adjust each image individually but
without always having to click on White Balance
Adjustment each and every time. I really just want
to click thru and eye dropper the images.
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Ken,
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In the section "Working with image tone and color" the Lightroom manual states:
Specify a neutral area in the photo
1. In the Basic panel of the Develop module, click the White Balance Selector tool to select it, or press the W key.
2. Move the White Balance Selector into an area of the photo that should be a neutral light gray. Avoid spectral highlights or areas that are
100% white.
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Zooms the close-up view in the Loupe...."
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While I am sure this is a simple thing, I think that the manual should be much more clear about this description; what is there now is very inadequate.

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http://www.johnburdick.us/WhiteBalance.jpg
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Apple are being deliberately deceptive on this issue.
I have been to a couple of demo's at their store and watched the demonstrator use the same wedding photo each time to highlight the power of the white balance eye-dropper. I think this is the only photo on the face of the earth to give a half-way decent result from the eye-dropper (and even then it's still a little blue).
When I cornered the demonstrator on this specific issue he tried to use another image (one of the Tibet portraits) and the results were horrible and he was forced to concede that this tool was lousy.
I simply don't believe the software developers weren't aware of the shortcomings of this and yet they still decided to release and insult their customers with it.
But this is a minor issue compared with the overall quality of the images coming out of the RAW adjustments.
I can't understand why photographers are still fighting to make this application work. Sure, as a image selection/management tool it's very nice but beyond that it's garbage.
I've returned my copy to the Apple Store where I purchased it and received a full refund thankfully.

Mass unset an adjustment (white balance), aperture 3

Hi all,
I upgraded to Aperture 3 and everything went smoothly, even the library upgrade.
Except for a small adjustment thing: After "reprocess masters" every image I had white balance set manually (most of my tens of thousands of images), looks now green. Not only slightly, everything is green. When I unclick the white balance adjustment, the picture returns to pretty much what I expected it to be (camera is Canon 5D, raw images).
Seems that Aperture 3 processes this generally better and pictures look fine without adjusting white balance.
Now the question is: how do I mass unset white balance setting for each and every image inside a project? With lift and stamp I can change white balance, but I didn't find a way to unset it completely. Manually I can uncheck the box before white balance and that does the trick, but I don't plan to click 42000 images manually.
Is there a way to batch change this? It would be easier to just unset everything, then go through the previews quickly to see if some of the photos need WB adjustment and do those few manually. I've now gone through five projects manually and have left the manual adjustment to only about ten photos with a slight modification towards purple.
/hv

Yes 5D can do that but I don't use the feature.
These are albums created ages ago with first Aperture 1 and then Aperture 2 for the newer ones. Actually, this pointed me to the right direction.
The greenness problem seems to trouble only old photos processed with Aperture 1.0 or 1.1 RAW settings. I've been processing the oldest albums first and didn't even think about this.
For 2.x photos, the reprosessing doesn't cause any greenness or other problems, and also, curiously, the "stamp default from jpg" trick works for these images just as suggested here, in case I wanted to remove the WB settings, which seems to be unnecessary.
But for 1.x raw processed photos, there is a desperate need to do something and the lift & stamp trick doesn't work.
Weird, but the problem seems to be in the fact that I never converted anything when I migrated to Aperture 2. There was no need to do anything so I just let the old ones be as they were. I tested moving to 2.0 raw with a couple of photos and I wasn't happy with the result as something in the colours and/or white balance changed and some minor adjustments would have been needed.
So thanks for your help and ideas once again. I'll leave the old ones for now as they are and hope Apple fixes this. They obviously haven't tested the migration at all with a library containing photos processed with the ancient 1.0 raw processing.
/hv

White Balance not working

I'm using Aperture 3.2.2 and when I use the white balance 'pipette' tool to select neutral grey area no changes are applied. I think I know how this tool works as I have used it in the past. The image I am trying to adjust I also know needs adjusting as it was shot using bounced flash off an cream surface. Of course I can manually change the white balance using the temperature and tint sliders but have found better results in the past using the select neutral grey.
Anyone else having this issue and know of a fix?

Is it only on certain images that the white balance pipette tool does not work, or is it a general problem?
If it does not work on any images, delete the Aperture Preference files, as described in
Aperture 3: Troubleshooting Basics: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3805
for sometimes user interface elements do not work, when preference files are corrupted.
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Regards
Léonie

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