Location services related to router?

I have been unable to get my iPad to work at home with my Linksys wireless WRT160N router. The iPad works with several public routers and even with my neighbors Linksys 54G wireless router. I've been around the barn with Linksys (not our problem) and my Internet service provider (also not our problem) and Apple support (not our problem). Apple seems to think that the problem is with the router itself and I should replace it.
My question is: for those of you using Location Services successfully in your home on your home network, what router are you using? Make and model please. If this problem with Location Services is related to specific routers as Apple claimed, maybe we can identify which ones work and which ones don't. Tks for your help.

Look at iOS Troubleshooting Wi-Fi networks and connections http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1398
Additional things to try.
Turn Off your iPad. Then turn Off (disconnect power cord) the wireless router & then back On. Now boot your iPad. Hopefully it will see the WiFi.
Change the channel on your wireless router. Instructions at http://macintoshhowto.com/advanced/how-to-get-a-good-range-on-your-wireless-netw ork.html
If none of the above suggestions work, look at this link.
iPad Wi-Fi Problems: Comprehensive List of Fixes
http://appletoolbox.com/2010/04/ipad-wi-fi-problems-comprehensive-list-of-fixes/
iOS 5: Understanding Location Services
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4995
 Cheers, Tom

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As the King says, if your friends wifi router was relatively new, it likely has not been picked up by Apple's location based information database system and thus there is no location information associated with it. So your iPad had no way of getting its location.
The wifi location databases are traditionally updated by wardriving - literally companies employ people to drive around sniffing out active wifi signals and associating an approximate location to it. Some companies also have web sites to submit that information if owners wish to (Apple does not seem to have one though), and the various companies with wifi location databases buy and sell their information. Bottom line is though, it can take weeks, months or sometimes even longer for a residential router to get picked up - depends on where you live (more rural, likely the longer time it takes).
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