Location Services: Setting Time Zone... Always Active

Just wondering if anybody else is experiencing the always active SETTING TIME ZONE setting in LOCATION SERVICES / SYSTEM SERVICES.
It's always purple - never stops polling for location.
I've noticed a change in the battery life for my iPhone 4 and I think this is the culprit.
Is that setting needed for anything in particular or can it safely be turned off?
Thanks for any advice you have!

Grrrrrr, now (after the iOS 5.0.1 update), this is happening not only on my iPad, but also on my iPhone 4S, which never had the problem on iOS 5.0. So, instead of going from 1 to 0 devices having the problem, I've gone from 1 to 2 after the update! Isn't this the opposite of what was supposed to happen?
Letting the iPhone sleep for a while, shutting it off and turning it back on, resetting it with home+power, all do nothing. Weirdly, it *wasn't* doing this right after I did the update; it only started about a day or so later.
****Update: and now it's off again, but it did come on for about 10 minutes and then turned off again. Hmmmmm. I agree that having the status bar icon enabled is a good idea, to at least be able to see when this happens and disable it if you're in a situation where battery life matters.

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So, many threads and articles on the internet are claiming that turning off "setting time zone" in location services (under system services) solves their battery drainage issue.
I've tried turning off location services together with other things, and while there seems to be an improvement, I don't really think it is solving the problem completely in my case. For example, even after:
- a full iphone restore from iTunes
- no third party apps
- the phone in Airplane mode (no Wifi or cellular connectivity)
- all location services off
- iCloud syncing completely off
   - Facetime off
   - iMessage off
   - bluetooth off
    - WITHOUT using the phone at all
... I seem to be lsoing about 25 % of charge every nine hours, which extrapolates to 36 hours time, total.
... but this is with ll networking functions turned completely off (set up basically as an old-time PDA but without actually using it) and without turning the phone on.
Apple claims a time of 200 hours standby with all services on, connected to a WiFi access point with only "ask to join networks" set to the off position.
How is that possible?
Looking at my phone usage under General settings, even with all the networking functions turned completely off (as above), my phone is spending about 90 % of time "in use." But I'm not using it!
At least with this phone, it seems like not all is explained by the "setting time zone" service under location services. Even with the screen off, no networking functions, and limited functionality, it appears to be cranking away at something.
Can anyone else reproduce this?

Grrrrrr, now (after the iOS 5.0.1 update), this is happening not only on my iPad, but also on my iPhone 4S, which never had the problem on iOS 5.0. So, instead of going from 1 to 0 devices having the problem, I've gone from 1 to 2 after the update! Isn't this the opposite of what was supposed to happen?
Letting the iPhone sleep for a while, shutting it off and turning it back on, resetting it with home+power, all do nothing. Weirdly, it *wasn't* doing this right after I did the update; it only started about a day or so later.
****Update: and now it's off again, but it did come on for about 10 minutes and then turned off again. Hmmmmm. I agree that having the status bar icon enabled is a good idea, to at least be able to see when this happens and disable it if you're in a situation where battery life matters.

Set Time Zone automatically doesn't work?

Just returned from a trip to Greece (back home now in Phoenix). Noticed that even connected to wifi in different locations, when "set time zone automatically" was clicked on in general settings, time displayed on iPad seemed stuck in EST. (I made a stop in Philly on way to trip, not sure if that has to do with anything.)
If i click "set time zone automatically" to off, for some reason my iPad defaults to Washington DC, even though in all my calendar/email settings i have Phoenix set as local time zone. I can change Washington DC to Phoenix and correct time displays on iPad. Just wondering why i can't set it automatically to display correct local time?
Thanks for any suggestions....

Ok thanks. Yeah, I ended up using the World Clocks.
Where it gets interested is, iCal. If you're in a foreign country that's, say, 4 hours ahead, and you add iCal entries to your Calendar while you're out there, should those entries reflect the local time or the home time?
Also, if you're set the Alarm to wake you up at 8:00am, and you're away on holiday, surely it will go off at home time, not local time, thus going off at the WRONG time.

Why is the location services arrow constantly on for setting time zone on iOS 5.1?

I have updated to iOS 5.1 OTA (Over The Air, not by connecting to iTunes and updating) on my iPhone 4S and the purple location services arrow is constantly on in the status bar when setting time zone and automatic update of date and time are turned on simultaneously. I had this problem prior to the update, but I understand that not everyone has this issue as my friend has these two settings on and doesn't have the problem. I have tried restoring and all that (obviously), but not restoring and setting up as new.
Somebody please help because it's an obvious fault in the system if nothing else. I have heard somebody else complain about this and the had a 32 GB 4S the same as me. I don't really see why memory should matter but my friend who doesn't have the problem has a 16GB 4S.
Also, I am not in an area that is between time zones when this is happening.

If it is turned on I can't be sure if anything else is using my location (at a glance) since the arrow is constantly showing. I am aware that this function will use battery power, maybe constantly, but the arrow shouldn't be constantly showing. If it should, then why doesn't my friends iPhone show it? Either way there is a problem here.

Why is there no control to turn off location services? I updated my iPhone 4 to iOS6.0.1. I now have no control over location services. Will it always be on and only activate if an application requires it?

I updated my iPhone 4 to iOS6.0.1. I now have no control over location services. Will it always be on and only activate if an application requires it? I want to be sure it will not drain the battery unnecessarily.

I found this answer in ios 4, but it worked on the ios 6 on my iphone 4:
moodogg
Currently Being Moderated Re: iPhone 4 / iOS 4 - Location Services Always On
Nov 20, 2010 10:25 PM (in response to modular747)
so i actually ended up walking into genius bar today. they couldn't figure out which program was causing the glitch either, but the way they solved it was by resetting all the location service permissions altogether. for those of you who want to know how to do this, navigate to "settings > general > reset > reset location warnings". also fyi, the apple service rep told me the purple location service icon next to each app simply signifies that particular app has requested your location within the past 24 hours, not necessarily that the app is active. hope this helps those with the same problem as i had. iPhone 4, iOS 4
I will mention that I did not have the problem until I downloaded the new googlemaps, which I have deleted off my iphone.

Setting time zones at sea?

Is there any app for Iphone that will let you set time zones by number offset from UTC. I am often in time zones that have no city in them, so they are not listed in the clock app.

Maybe I am not being clear. Let's try again.
We don't have cell-phone coverage in the middle of the ocean.
I turn my cell and wifi off when we get off shore to save power.
I use the iPhone as a little computer. I am looking for a way to have my four or five wall clocks that I used to have on the office wall, on my iPhone.
During doing my job I like to be able to know:
What time is it in the time zone I am in.
What time is it on my best friend's ship.
What time is it on the port we left.
What time is it on in the port we are going to.
And what time it is in UTC
I just am looking for an app that gives me the ability to set time clocks by all time Zones around the world by zone offset from UTC.
Setting time zones by city names is useless to me.
Setting time zones by pinging the Internet or cell towers can not be done where I am at.

AppleScript or Automater to Set Time Zone (or just the time)

Hi,
I am trying to have a script that will change the timezone to UK - (ie reduce my macbook by one hour from European time) before I run an application.
I use a MythTV backend on my network that is in UK time, and I am in Europe. However, the mythfront end I have on my mac needs to be in same timezone for it to work with the backend.
However, instead of having to go to the System Prefs before I want to run the myth front end, I'll like to build a Automater workflow (app) that changes time to UK time, runs the mythfront end (and changes back once I close myth front end).
My problem is I can't get any workflow to work to change the timezone. I found a workflow on the net for Automater, but this doesn't work. The auomater app was called 'Set Time Zone 1.0 - by NyghtHawk productions' but only returns this error about not being able to find this file:
/System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/Support/syst emsetup-panther.
(which I guess is obvious as I'm using Snow leopard and not panther)
Does anyone know of a working way to script setting the time in Mac Os X ?
Thanks in advance
Alex

I have solved the Applescripting of System Preferences to change the Time Zone.
My problem is that my time zone (Melbourne - Australia) causes my 3rd gen iPod nano to lose its time zone and time settings when it is _plugged in_ to my mac (Note: Not when it is synchronised).
I have a pair of Applescripts: the first sets the time zone to Noumea, run before the iPod is plugged in and the second resets the time zone to Melbourne after the iPod is physically disconnected.
timezone=Noumea
This script is run BEFORE plugging in the iPod.
This ensures the iPod time zone is not NUKED.
The corresponding script to reset time zone is
run when iPod is physically disconnected
tell application "System Preferences" to activate
tell application "System Events"
tell process "System Preferences"
(* get Date & Time preference pane *)
tell menu bar item "View" of menu bar 1
delay 0.5
click menu item "Date & Time" of menu 1
end tell
(* get Time Zone subpane *)
tell tab group 1 of window "Date & Time"
click radio button "Time Zone"
tell group 1
set value of combo box 1 to "Nouméa - New Caledonia"
We need to focus the combo box before "hitting" return
PROBLEM: we dont know if it is already focused
a) if is already focused the first 'return' key sets the time zone
b) if was not focused the first 'return' key does nothing
the 'tab' key will then focus it
and then the second 'return' key sets the time zone
keystroke return & tab & return -- make it stick
delay 0.5
end tell
end tell
end tell
end tell
timezone=Melbourne
This script is run AFTER physically disconnecting the iPod.
This ensures the iPod time zone is not NUKED.
The corresponding script to set up the time zone to Noumea
is run BEFORE iPod is physically plugged in
tell application "System Preferences" to activate
tell application "System Events"
tell process "System Preferences"
(* get Date & Time preference pane *)
tell menu bar item "View" of menu bar 1
delay 0.5
click menu item "Date & Time" of menu 1
end tell
(* get Time Zone subpane *)
tell tab group 1 of window "Date & Time"
click radio button "Time Zone"
tell group 1
set value of combo box 1 to "Melbourne - Australia"
We need to focus the combo box before "hitting" return
PROBLEM: we dont know if it is already focused
a) if is already focused the first 'return' key sets the time zone
b) if was not focused the first 'return' key does nothing
the 'tab' key will then focus it
and then the second 'return' key sets the time zone
keystroke return & tab & return -- make it stick
delay 0.5
end tell
end tell
end tell
end tell

Setting Time Zone location marker still lights up in iOS 5.0.1 . Does this happen to you?

I have updated my iphone 4 to ios 5.0.1 ota and when the phone boots up the time zone location icon lights up i know this because i checked it in location services system . So does this happen to you ?

Yes, I saw this happen as well a week after upgrading to iOS 5 it started showing up all the time. So I shut the phone down and rebooted and the problem went away.

Trouble setting time zone for new location in networking

When I try to set a time zone for a new location it sets this as the time zone for all locations. I must be missing something. Any suggestions?
"Lily" my PowerBook G4 1.67GHz Mac OS X (10.4.2) 40GB iPod 3G

If you're doing this in the Date & Time PrefPane, then, IIRC, that's normal behavior. That controls the date and time settings for the computer. See Setting the date, time, and time zone description in Help.

Location Services Setting

Using an original iPhone with 2.0 update.
Question about programs that request using location services....when these programs are running in the background, do they use these services, or just when they are open and on screen?
I'd like to just leave the setting "on" and not worry too much about battery life. Before the update, google maps would just locate without asking permission, so does thet mean "location services" was alway switched on in previous software versions?
Thanks much.

I don't think leaving it turned on uses any more battery since they wont be running in the background anyway.
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I can not setting up the location services and change individual location service for each application since the icon are all in the dead icon and I cannot change anything. Is there anyway to make those icons in active?

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Location Service set me in the wrong place

I recently moved from from LA to Las Vegas, and when I installed my network (3 Airport Express) then my MBP (retina 2012) OS 10.10.2 are keep on telling me that my location is in LA (my previous address). Interesting though is when I am Safari and other browsers, then ads and searches locates me at my correct location. But Maps, Find my phone and Time zone is using my previous location in LA.
Network is configured as one Airport Express is hardwired to the modem, and the other two act as extended network routers.
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The location service uses an Apple database of router location and its unique identifier. As of yet nobody here as been able to find a way to update the Apple database. You do not have to connect to a router to use its location, all yo have to do is to be within range.It could be find your previous home location since the database may still have you old location associated with your router (assuming you moved you router to your new location). For the other locations you obtained, they may have be from other routers.

Location Manager and Time Zones Feature Request

I use my Powerbook for consulting - and travel extensively.
Location Manager handles my network setups, but, to the best of my knowledge, NOT the time zone information.
I'd like to have the option to set the time zone from my location manager, so that when I get to a customer site, and attach to the network, files, iCal, Mail, and other timestamped files are correctly in sync with the location.
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Hi, Kirk. Welcome to the Discussions.
For Mac OS X feature requests, submit a Mac OS X Feedback. These Discussions are user-to-user communications only. Feedback is the formal mechanism for submitting feature requests.
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Thanks for replying Johnny!
What you are referring to is adding a city. I need to know how to set the time zone in settings -> Date & Time -> Timezone. Unless & untill this is set properly the iPod will never show me the right time. Please help me with it.
I will definately use your advice on the second query.
Thanks once again!
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