Locator or Spatial?

Please excuse my ignorance but I need a clarification. We are running Oracle 10g and I'm new to using the spatial technology. I am able to successfully create and populate a SDO_GEOMETRY column in a table and generate a spatial index. How do I know if I'm using the Locator or Spatial product? How do I ensure that I am using only the Locator product?

you can check it in the oracle spatial user guide.
http://download.oracle.com/docs/html/B14255_01/sdo_locator.htm#i632018
chapter
in the Part III Supplementary Information
section
B Oracle Locator
there are two tables:
Table B-1 Spatial Features Supported for Locator
Table B-2 Spatial Features Not Supported for Locator
besides,
if you don't have Oracle Enterprise and Oracle Spatial licensed you should install oracle without oracle spatial.

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Hi,
In 9.2, the difference is in what you are allowed to use, not what is installed. The complete set of spatial functionality is included, but with locator you are only allowed to use a subset. The products may be differentiated at install time at some later date, but currently you have everything.
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Any help would be appreciated thanks.

Hi,
If you are using Oracle9i you can do this with locator. Before Oracle9i this required spatial.
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Oracle 10gR2 - Is it Spatial or Locator?

I'm trying to determine if a 10.2 database is using Spatial or Locator.
I've checked out this other recent thread:
Oracle is Spatial or Locator?
On the DB I'm looking at, I only come back with a reference to count is Spatial (and nothing for Locator - which I think is what it is really using)
I did some more digging and I found these to manual pages:
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14237/statviews_3114.htm (10gR2)
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E14072_01/server.112/e10820/statviews_3180.htm (11gR2)
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What I'm wondering is if in 10gR2/10.2 if Oracle hadn't split out Locator from Spatial in dba_feature_usage_statistics until 11gR2. And if, so how can I really tell whether the DB is being used for true Spatial or just Locator.
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How To Verify That Oracle Locator Is Installed (Doc ID 357943.1)
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Spatial or locator ?

I'm a bit confused !
How to see if I'm using the locator or the spatial component ?

I think it just depend of the functionality you are using.
For example for using georaster in 10g, you must buy an Oracle Spatial license.
see this paper below to check the difference between
Locator and spatial
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/spatial/pdf/10gr2_collateral/spatial_ds_10gr2_0513.pdf
regards
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Can both Locator & spatial store three point curves or arcs?

1) can both Oracle Locator and Oracle Spatial store three pint curves or arcs?
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hmmm, i got this exact question in mail today. someone is double-dipping!
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Oracle has all these different components, and we jut found out that in order to use Locator, you have to install Oracle interMedia. Is there anything else there that Locator has a dependency on that we would be missing? We intend to install these:
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Oracle Database Packages and Types
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Oracle Locator is implemented in the MDSYS userid. (It's included in every version and edition of the database since 8i, including 10gR2 Express Edition.)
As you have noted, Locator is considered part of intermedia. (In some versions of Oracle, Locator is officially a feature of intermedia, in others it seems to be independent. In all versions, it uses a commono install with intermedia.) The install for intermedia 10gR2 is described at http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/appdev.102/b14302/ap_instl_upgrd.htm#sthref649
I believe there are some Locator funtions in 10gR2 that are impemented in Java and require the JVM. The 10gR2 Express Edition (XE) does not include JVM and Locator seems to be mostly functional, but there are areas that do not work.
Technically you do not need Oracle Text or Oracle XDK/XMLDB. I've found they are extremely useful so I do include them in my minimum installs. They are also included in XE.
In your list the following are related to separately licensed EE options: Spatial, OLAP and Data Mining

Oracle 11g, Locator, and 3D data, part 2

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https://community.oracle.com/thread/2566650
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Lets say I have
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zipcode varchar2(5) not null,
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zipcode varchar2(5) primary key,
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I am very new to Spatial so step-by-step instructions would be greatly appreciated.
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Vikas,
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http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/appdev.102/b14255/toc.htm
http://www.oracle.com/technology/obe/obe10gdb/content/spatial/spatial.htm
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1) Alter the zip_details table and add a column of SDO_GEOMETRY type:
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SQL> DELETE FROM USER_SDO_GEOM_METADATA
WHERE TABLE_NAME = 'ZIP_DETAILS' AND COLUMN_NAME = 'GEOMETRY' ;
SQL> INSERT INTO USER_SDO_GEOM_METADATA (TABLE_NAME, COLUMN_NAME, DIMINFO, SRID)
VALUES ('ZIP_DETAILS', 'GEOMETRY',
MDSYS.SDO_DIM_ARRAY
(MDSYS.SDO_DIM_ELEMENT('LONG', -180.0, 180.0, 0.05),
MDSYS.SDO_DIM_ELEMENT('LAT', -90.0, 90.0, 0.05)
8307);
COMMIT;
3) Now, populate the newly created geom column with the latitude and longitude data.
SQL> update zip_details set geometry = SDO_GEOMETRY(2001, 8307, SDO_POINT_TYPE(longitude, latitude, NULL), NULL, NULL);
SQL> commit;
4) Finally, add a spatial index for this "layer" of information:
SQL> CREATE INDEX ZIP_DETAILS_SIDX ON ZIP_DETAILS(GEOMETRY)
INDEXTYPE IS MDSYS.SPATIAL_INDEX;
5) You now have a sufficiently "spatialized" data set that you can use to query for interesting information like whom are the closest customers to a certain longitude/latitude within 100 meters:
SQL> SELECT a.name
FROM cust_address a
WHERE
SDO_WITHIN_DISTANCE(a.geometry, mdsys.sdo_geometry (2001, 8307,
mdsys.sdo_point_type (-73.94, 40.66, null),
null, null),
'distance=100 unit=meter') = 'TRUE';
or whom are the closest customers to a specific zipcode (94065) within 5 miles:
SQL> SELECT /*+ ORDERED */
c.name
FROM zip_details a, zip_details b, cust_address c
WHERE sdo_within_distance (b.geometry, a.geometry, 'distance=5 unit=mile') = TRUE
AND a.zipcode = c.zipcode;
AND a.zipcode = '94065';
Hope this helps. For more information and training, please check the training page (http://www.oracle.com/technology/training/products/spatial/index.html) and the new book, Pro Oracle Spatial (http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/spatial/htdocs/pro_oracle_spatial.html).
-Justin

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Have Oracle Enterprise Edition with Spatial installed on one of our development servers. This server is being switched into production. However after completing development we have decided we do not need any Spatial functionlity just Locator functionlity. So will just be getting an Enterprise Edition license without Spatial (as we are using partitioning). Is there a way to disable the spatial functionality. Do you uninstall the Spatial option via Universal Installer or will this remove MDSYS and Locator aswell or does it just disable the Spatial components leaving the Locator and MDSYS schema unaffected. Is this safe with spatial tables and rtree indexes already in place.
Thanks

While you have Enterprise Edition for the Partioning option I can see why you want to uninstall any of the additional Spatial options to ensure you don't deploy additional cost options to a production environment even though your production code does not use any of these options.
I had a look at the Universal Installer and it is not clear to me either whether ticking the appropriate box will leave you with only Locator or remove Locator+Spatial entirely!
So, I can't help you, other than to experiment with the installer on my database.
I suggest:
1. Logging a call to Oracle support asking for the approved, official method.
2. While waiting for 1, try it on a PC which doesn't have Oracle on it to see what you get. One would think that if one has only Locator then a "Describe mdsys.sdo_geom" should tell you if you have Locator vs Spatial as Locator shouldn't have SDO_UNION and other geoprocessing functions.
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regards
S

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Thanks for the reply. Sorry I was out of town for a couple of weeks and this issue is still out there pending.
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