Log and Transfer Process Failed for AVCHD with SD card

I shoot on SD Cards using AVCHD technology.
It creates a file called “Private”.
When I want to ingest the footage into Final Cut, I must choose log and transfer and then drop the clip into the window.
I can see and watch the clip before I start the process but if fails when I try and complete the log and transfer process.
Any ideas / trouble shooting help to get this to work???

Fails how? What exactly happens? What do you see on your computer?
Exactly what format did you shoot? What settings are you using in FCP? What OS? What version of the software? What version of QuickTime? What computer? What drives? How's everything connected? What's the scratch disk? How's it formatted? That'll be a good start.

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    This is the 1st version of this tip. It was submitted on December 03, 2010 by skalicki`.
    Do you want to provide feedback on this User Contributed Tip or contribute your own? If you have achieved Level 2 status, visit the User Tips Library Contributions forum for more information.

    Disclaimer: Apple does not necessarily endorse any suggestions, solutions, or third-party software products that may be mentioned in the topic below. Apple encourages you to first seek a solution at Apple Support. The following links are provided as is, with no guarantee of the effectiveness or reliability of the information. Apple does not guarantee that these links will be maintained or functional at any given time. Use the information below at your own discretion.
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    I would like to keep a working backup of my original clips so that I can delete them off the camcorder's internal memory. How should I do this?
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    I am experiencing a problem that is not covered in this tip or the solutions here do not work.
    The best thing to do at this point would be to trash your preferences and start a new topic in the [FCE Forum|http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=936&start=0] with a detailed description of your problem. Check out the user tip on [Basic Troubleshooting in Final Cut Express|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2662419] for more information.
    This is the 1st version of this tip. It was submitted on December 03, 2010 by skalicki`.
    Do you want to provide feedback on this User Contributed Tip or contribute your own? If you have achieved Level 2 status, visit the User Tips Library Contributions forum for more information.

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