Log and transfer tragedy. PLEASE ADVISE!

Two days ago I started importing HD footage into my FC2 so I am new to the knowledge.
Today I imported around 160 clips from cam 1, I have 2 more cams to import.
By the time I hit 160 clip imports FC2 started crashing on my next thumbnail selected.
Each import from this cam is around 15 megs and some are around 1 to 2 gigs.
Does each sequence have a top out file size? Currently I hope to place cam 1 on one sequence
and so on but I can not do my job under these circumstances. I have a Macpro 2.66 GHZ Dual Quad
with Xeon processors with 10.5.6 OS. FC@ is 6.0.5 all updates are current. I have submitted these failures to Apple if it helps in I.T. Is their a max import size by the project or by the sequence?
Are their known issues to this problem? Please Help, I have a show to put together which is ironically titled Tales From The Harddrive LOL http://www.talesfromtheharddrive.com. Should I tell this Tale?

I think I figured it out thanks to other forums on this site. I think it has to do with USB vs FIREWIRE. A column on this site says USB delivers data in bursts where as FIREWIRE is continuous. By slowing down my desktop activities the problem sees to be manageable. KEEP A STEADY PACE when accessing SR11's content. Maybe SONY will go firewire?
I totally value this site, most of the questions I have asked or planned to ask have answers within this site. THANKS TO ALL WHO PIONEERED THESE ISSUES!

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ARTIFACTS AFTER LOG AND TRANSFER! please help!

i was given a p2 card to log and transfer. after my first attempt to log and transfer, the sound was way out of sync and the video was strobing. then i deselected the option to remove advanced pulldown and drop frames from the settings preferences. i then log and transfered again and this seemed to fix the initial problems. however, now my clips have artifacts every few seconds that look like little patches of random colors. what are these and how can i fix them. any help is greatly appreciated. thanx.

In the L&T window...play the footage. Can you see them there? If you don't have P2CMS from Panasonic, download it and use it to view the footage. See if this break up is on the original footage.
I have seen this, but it appeared on the master footage.
Shane

Log and transfer inevitably crashing FCP

We're editing a couple of music video in FCP 6.0.1.
we shot with an HMC150 so the clips are being uploaded from an SDHC in an AVCHD folder via log and transfer. the first video went relatively fine barring several problems with log and transfer (files not matching thumbnails, files corrupting, FCP crashing) the problems seem to be random and inconsistent, as issues like a misplaced thumbnail or corrupted import could be reopened and fixed so there was no way to tell exactly why each thing was happening. eventually it all subsided and work went smoothly.
went on to finish video number two and after several imports the log and transfer feature has decided to be the death of the project. Choosing log and transfer inevitably leads to an almost instant crash of FCP unless all drives it's reading from are disconnected. reinserting any drive means an instant crash. the drives are not corrupt and function just fine with any and all other programs, even imovie.
why in the world can't i get FCP to stay alive when i open the log and transfer? please help.

Right - I've solved this one. It turned out that I'd recorded some 1080p50 footage. The mere presence of this on the card freaked Log & Transfer. The camera doesn't make it easy by hiding that footage when you're looking at 1080i25 (or whatever "normal" mode is).

Premiere NEEDS Log and Transfer

Ok, so hear me out.
I absolutely understand that Premiere edits almost every single format known to man, however I have one absolutely massive issue with this:
Unless you use 2 extra pieces of adobe software (from my knowledge you need to use Prelude and Media Composer), there is no way that you can trim footage before you can import it. Why is this not an option. Some clips are just huge and would be stupid to import the entire clip. There needs to be an easy way to trim footage before you can import it to save disk space, much like Final Cut Pro 7 and Log and Transfer.
Please correct me if I am wrong. If there is a way to trim before you import footage in Premiere only, please let me know. No questions here, just needed to get this off my chest.
-Rory

Hi Toebex,
Toebex wrote:
Please correct me if I am wrong. If there is a way to trim before you import footage in Premiere only, please let me know. No questions here, just needed to get this off my chest.
-Rory
You can achieve a partial ingest in Adobe Prelude. See this article: http://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/ingest-options-adobe-prelude/
Thanks,
Kevin

AVCHD Log and Transfer Woes. Please advise.

Folks, I am using the latest version of FInal Cut (7.02) to log and transfer AVCHD content from a Panasonic Lumix GH1. Many clips get imported but many stop with errors ( a stream error as note by a exclamation mark in a red alert icon in the status column) even though they play back in the log and transfer window, VLC, Toast 10.
I've had to resort to using Toast 10 to transcode which is disheartening that it can and FCP can't. Plus it's slow. Another strange thing is that in FCP the number of clips that are successfully transcoded outnumber the number of clips for the same reel in Log and Transfer.
Per some other message board to troubleshoot, I've updated my FxFactory plugin app, uninstalled Perian, deactivated the pulldown feature in Log and Transfer, and changed the AVCHD audio settings to plain stereo. None of these efforts has changed the stream errors I am getting.
I could use some advice on this.

L&T and Lumix GH1 footage needs the file structure in the 'PRIVATE' folder intact.
So don't delete a single thing in there from the computer - if you want to remove clips you must do it from the camera. And when doing back-ups to a harddrive, copy the entire PRIVATE folder and again, don't change anything in there once it's on the harddrive. Then L&T can still access the clips, you don't have to do it from the SDHC card.
And don't include photo captures.

Hey, I have Final Cut Express 4.0.1 and a JVC everio camera, whenever i try to import my files to FCE via "Log and transfer", it just doesn't do anything, as if FCE doesn't know the camera is there, please help !

Hey,
I have Final Cut Express 4.0.1 and a JVC everio camera.
Whenever i try to import my files to FCE via "Log and transfer", it just doesn't do anything, as if FCE doesn't know the camera is there,
please help !

FCE 4.0.1 can only capture DV/HDV which is produced by cameras using Mini-DV TAPES and cameras shooting AVCHD which is a high definition format.
If your camera shoots standard definition on Memory Cards, DVDs or Hard Drives it will not work in FCE.
What is your camera's exact model name and number?

Log and transfer does not recognize footage. Please Help

When i open the log and transfer window in FCP on my macbook it no longer recognizes the files from the Contents folder of a P2 card or the RED ONE files from the folder on my hard drive. last week however, everything was working fine.
does this have something to do with the project settings or the RED plugins? any help is greatly appreciated. thanks.

Have you changed your set up or software, or computer in any manner since last week?
And did you trash your preferences and try that?

Help! Final Cut Express crashes on Log and Transfer

Hi,
I am using a Canon Vixia HFS20 (AVCHD) and a Mac Book Pro (running snow leopard) , with a 1 tb My Book as scratch disk.
I have upgraded the software.
In Easy Setup, I selected AVCHD 1920x1080i60, after checking the camera and seeing that it is recording with 60i.
Log and Transfer opens, but then final cut express immediately crashes.
Please advise! Thank you so much,
Anne

What happens if you remove the external drive and try a test capture to the MAC directly?
How is the external connected? eg. USB
Is the external formatted to MAC OS Extended?
Al

Problem with Log and transfer using AVCHD

Hello,
I was wondering if I can get help. I use a Canon Vixia HF S200 and FCP Version 6.0.6
I have produced projects on my MacBook Pro 2.33 Ghz Intel Core 2 using this process before with no problems in the past. This problem just started and I dont know what has changed. When I open the Log and Transfer (LT) window I can see and hear all my video from the AVCHD folder in my harddrive just fine, I can scrub with no prob.... But when I add clip to Queue I get an red circle with exclamation on my status.
I have changed the settings on the preferences to Apple intermediate Codec and the audio to plain stereo.. no luck there, the video still will not transfer to my bin.
I have made sure that the toggle Queue state was the little arrow instead of the paused icon...no luck there either... i got a message that says clip queued transferring but nothing is happening.
I will appreciate your help!
Also I didn't mean to tread jack earlier, please accept my apologies, if anybody saw that...

OK!!!!! This seriously cost me 1 day of my life that I'll never get back!!! lol
So I was able to bring the footage in on to Imovie...Yes, I was that desperate...deadlines do that!
Edited the entire project there...kinda sucked...
Then I had the bright idea that if I was able to bring the videos in to Imovie, on my local HD...than something may be wrong with my scratch disk that I use on FC...its a USB disk, specs =slow.
So I changed the scratch disk and yes "Davi S" for good measure I also deleted the Pref files.
So it working again...here I go editing on FC after I edited the entire project on Imovie...
Thanks for all your help!

I need to know best way to edit MXF files, with least rendering, is that converting the MXF or Log and Transfer? the end product is dvd, but I have lots and lots of these projects to do.

I am about to comence my Edit, and was told of Mpeg Streamclip, however this doesn't seem to work with my Canon XF305 Clips, the reason I was told to use it was so I wouldn't have to Render in Final Cut Pro all the time.. I do have the Canon Disc with the Plug in Utility and the update from their site.
Is it best to Convert these MXF files first and import them into FCP or use 'Log and Transfer', so far I am unable to do either!!
The projects on the timeline will have introduction .Movs already on it as a Template to re-use again and again with the new Footage ( MXF Files ) to be added and edited with transitions etc..This process is repeated again and again but with different MXF clips each time.
I am looking for the quickest and best way for workflow as there are 80 or more projects to do, each with 10 or so clips to be added to the timeline and Exported for DVD...Will I have to then Compress to fit onto DVD's??
I know Streamclip is an Mepeg 2 app but I thought the Canon XF305 Shot as mpeg2....
Is Log and Transfer my only Option?
Basically I need to know the quickest for Render purposes, and of course, the best way so the files aren't so huge etc etc.
Please, any suggestions would be greatly received....

We only work with PR422 files in FC7. We use Shane's workflow with all 5D & MXF footage.
Make your life easier and stick to the ProRes family for your footage and edit sequences. Avoid H264 & convert any you have to ProRes.
Unless you are considering Blu-Ray the only way to deliver video on a DVD is to convert it to SD.
Depending on the length of your show you can make a Blu-Ray in Compressor but you have very limited authoring options when compared to DVD Studio Pro.
Compressor can also convert your HD to SD mpg-2 & Ac3 files. The best results usually come from setting the frame controls in the mpg-2 setting of Compressor to best. Depending on the the length of the show and your Qmaster settings this can take quite a while.
I personally find Compressor's HD to SD DVD conversion varies. Sometimes it is wonderful and sometimes not so much. I prefer the following as it is usually is faster and very consistent.
Export a quicktime movie (not QT conversion) of your final sequence
Import the exported HD file back into FC.
Create a SD 16x9 sequence and then drop in the recently exported HD seq and render. Rendering the sequence basically has FC doing the HD to SD conversion. Export the SD sequence and then convert to mpg-2 & ac3 in Compressor. While this does take time I still find it faster than Compressor with Qmaster utilizing all cores.
Another option is using jobs in Compressor
http://pixelcorps.cachefly.net/macbreak-154-540p-h264.mov
In this workflow you would have Compressor convert the HD file to SD and then through jobs convert the SD file to mpg2 & Ac3.
In theory the jobs version could be faster (based on a number of variables- length, Qmaster, etc) but I haven't had time to compare the two.

A conclusion to ALL the AVCHD/.mts Log and Transfer Final Cut Pro 7 issues

Hey all! Happy 2011!
So this is my first post here and hopefully when this thread concludes with all your help we should be able to help a lot of people and save them the heartache that I have recently had to endure by stating these things in plain English. I have some questions at the end which I think could be answered very easily! Please, no gobbledygook!
It would be great if people in the know can confirm/deny or comment on my points so those that are in a similar position to me can save their time and just get on with it.
1) I have a Panasonic HDC-TM300 and it records in AVCHD/.mts files
2) FCP 7 can deal with AVCHD files via the Log and Transfer feature if you do it straight from the camera or memory card and can convert to ProRes 422 (LT)?
3) Log and Transfer _*DOES NOT WORK*_ if you move the AVCHD/.mts to an external drive without maintaining the folder structure?
4) What is required from the folder structure that makes FCP act this way?
5) Basically I have f*ed it by doing the part 3 above which I think is the most natural thing in the world to do! Im sure that many people have done the same thing as me please correct me if i’m wrong
After a lot of research on the internet I have come up with the following solutions and in brackets my thoughts on them. If anyone has any experience with them please please let me and other people know so I can get on with my life and editing these files.
a) Harass the people that make FCP 7.0 and make sure that the next update solves this stupid/idiotic/ridiculous oversight. (This could take a while but i think we should do it for the sake of future generations)
b) Someone could let us know about a workaround to this that may be the folder structure that FCP needs to be able to do L&T (needs to be simple so that everyone can do it. This would be the best short term solution until part a is completed)
c) Buy one of the converter programs such as ClipWrap, Toast Titanium or Aunsoft mts converter. If so which is the most/ least recommended and why? (Least desirable option due to requirement for extra program so extra faffing and extra cost).
Thanks y’all and keep up the awesome work!!
K*

2) FCP 7 can deal with AVCHD files via the Log and Transfer feature if you do it straight from the camera or memory card and can convert to ProRes 422 (LT)?
Yes.
3) Log and Transfer DOES NOT WORK if you move the AVCHD/.mts to an external drive without maintaining the folder structure?
This is true of ANY tapeless format.
4) What is required from the folder structure that makes FCP act this way?
This is due to the fact that most of them have files in those other folders in that structure that FCP needs to access in order to get all the proper components assembled properly. Sure, there are formats that have folders with nothing in them. Doesn't matter, FCP is designed to look at the full structure and work from that.
5) Basically I have f*ed it by doing the part 3 above which I think is the most natural thing in the world to do!
The most natural thing in the world is to NOT backup everything? Well, that might be the case, since this comes up so darn often. But, it is wrong. The full structure must be maintained. This is true of many tapeless formats and more than just FCP. Avid and Premiere need this for certain tapeless formats too.
a) Harass the people that make FCP 7.0 and make sure that the next update solves this stupid/idiotic/ridiculous oversight.
It isn't an oversight. It is designed like this on purpose. You need to learn how to do things right. You obviously know what that is now...keep the full card structure. So now it is up to you to continue to do things properly. Instead of insisting that an NLE conform the way it works to suit your needs.
b) Someone could let us know about a workaround to this that may be the folder structure that FCP needs to be able to do L&T (needs to be simple so that everyone can do it. This would be the best short term solution until part a is completed)
Easy. Shoot a small bit on another card. Look at the folder structure. Recreate that structure in your backed up footage. Often this will mean making folders with exact names, even if they are empty. But if they have files in them, even small ones, then the first backup you did might not work....because those might be some of the small files FCP needs in order to do the L&T process properly. Always worth trying though.
c) Buy one of the converter programs such as ClipWrap, Toast Titanium or Aunsoft mts converter. If so which is the most/ least recommended and why?
I highly recommend Clipwrap. Mainly because I haven't tried the others. But also because the author is always following the latest formats, and works hard to make sure his software works with them. It solved an importing issue I had with the Sony NXCam camera...within a week of me moaning about the issue.
Want a tutorial to walk you through the tapeless workflow in FCP? I have one. Tapeless Workflow for FCP 7 Tutorial You might know most of this, but watch it for other tips.
Shane

Canon HF20 - Issue w/ Log and Transfer in FCE

I just bought Final Cut Express 4, How do you know if you have the most up to date version? How do you upgrade?
The Video shows up, but it WILL NOT "log and transfer" I have tried to drag it down and drop it in and it acts like it will process it, but it will say 1 Clip Queued - Idle, The status then shows up as a Red Octagon with an exclamation mark.
I will do anything for answers,
the only way I can get video into fce so far is by uploading it to imovie then importing it in...
ANY Help- PLEASE!!!

Perian = I do not have that downloaded. Should I?
The only way I could get video into FCE is through importing it in. When the video plays in the canvas, the video is huge and I only get a portion of the screen....It looks really zoomed in. I'll gladly paypal you anything if you can help me through these beginer issues.

Log and transfer question

OK I was wondering if when I import AVCHD from my hard drive if the original files would be damaged at or removed at all. I just had a slight issue, and was wondering if that would be a problem. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!

my apologies. I have a 750 gb. usb harddrive that I use for storage, and a Sony Handycam hdr-cx7. I thought that maybe I could drag all of the contents from my memory stick into a folder and import them as needed using log and transfer. What made me ask the question was basically what is the transfer part. I'm sorry if I'm wasting your time. Anyway, I did that with some test AVCHD video and it came out OK, but tonight when I went to import it again, because I didn't save my work (I was just messing around) it gave me a message that says, ""08:5:29" contains unsupported media or has an invalid directory structure. Please choose a folder whose directory structure matches supported media." This may be my procedure problem, but it is nice to have the storage option. Thanks again.
Message was edited by: movie_man

Canon HF11 not showing up in log and transfer window

I am using FC Studio 6.0.6 and a Canon HD USB camera. The camera does not show up in the log and transfer window. It shows up on the desktop, works with iMovie '09 but not FCP. If I try to select files from the camera they are greyed out. Strange thing is is that it works fine on my iMac just not my MBP. I have trashed the FCP and Quicktime preferences but this did not help. HELP please.

I also am wondering what you mean by "file structure"? Do you mean the AVCHD files or something in FCP?
If you look for a particular file on a drive, there's a file structure or "path" to get to it. For instance;
Macintosh HD > Users > Nick > Documents > FCP > Projects > My latest project.
If I don't follow that path, I won't get to the file I am looking for.
Similarly, Final Cut Pro is expecting to see a certain path to the actual video files on your camera's Flash drive. If a folder name along the way is missing or had it's name changed, the path is no longer valid.

Mavericks and Final Cut Pro 7 - Log and Transfer crashes

Hi all. I (perhaps unintelligently) upgraded to OSX Mavericks on my Mac Pro while working on a project in Final Cut Pro 7. What is good news is that FCP 7 still works for the most part. The bad news is that Log and Transfer crashes.
I have a Panasonic P2 camera and I dump video via FireWire 800. When I first click on the Log and Transfer button, nothing happens. When I click on it again, the Log and Transfer window opens, but then FCP 7 crashes.
Is there any way to get video from my P2 card into the project without Log and Transfer?
Also, would any of these options work?
Trash preferences (working to figure out how to do that on Mavericks)
Worst case, re-format and re-install Lion (Don't have much time to do that)
Please let me know if you have a work around or a fix for this. I need to have this solved TODAY.
I appreciate your help in advance.

I am having the same issue on my iMac that was udated to Mavericks a while back and apparently I haven't tried to log and transfer anything since.
The error comes up everytime I have a my Sandisk High Speed Card in my lexar Fire Wire 800 card reader. The Log and Transfer screen pops up and it starts adding the clips and instead of populating the screen, it crashes. Mine also says FCP quit while using the canonIHL plug in, here's a screen shot of the indication.
I agree, this needs to be resolved ASAP. I'm dead in the water. The only thing I can do is transfer the raw files into a folder somewhere, then import the clips, but then to have them as ProRes files I guess I would have to use compressor before hand. I've done it before, but it never runs as smoothly without it being natively imported.

Log and transfer tragedy. PLEASE ADVISE!

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