Logic 5/OS9 to Logic 7/OSX?
I have spent hours on google looking for answers to my questions but i found very little. Here's my situation and if you can help me, i'd appreciate it.
right now i am using logic 5 "big box" under os9. i use a motu midi express xt serial interface with a 'stealth' modem to serial card. i also use an audiowerk8 card. it all works great. very stable. i also use reason 1.5 with logic through rewire.
i need the more featured environment of 'gold' so i just bought a copy of 5 gold from ebay. i was planning to just swap it for the 'big box' and everything else should work.
but then i was thinking, i could upgrade 5 gold to 7 but i would need to run os x. my machine is a G4/866 (the one before the MDD generation).
The bottom line, is, can i run 10.4, logic pro 7 on the G4 and continue to use my stealth/midiexpress set up and the audiowerk 8 card?
if i can just do a 10.4 install, install some drivers an the apps and GO, that would be great!
if there are drivers i need, do you know where i can get them? i have only been able to find the audiowerk osx 1.0 driver. i am now going to go look for the stealth and midiexpress drivers.
thanks for your help.
I installed Tiger 10.4 and Logic Pro 6.4.3. I created a song that included a EVD6, EVB3, ESX24 and ES2 with some effects on each including 1 Space Designer. Under OSX, the CPU was just maxed out on a G4/733.
Then I opened the same song under OS9. It was only slightly better, pinging in the red on the CPU meter.
This was very surprising because, like you, i thought OSX would have a lot more overhead. but, i guess not. I would expect that Pro 7 would behave the same.
So the bottom line is that there isnt much difference between Logic running under OS9 vs OSX.
I was also able to get OSX to work with my audiowerk8 card and my serial port midi interface using the drivers provided by GeeThree for the Stealth card I have installed.
Very cool. It means I can run OSX and not have to upgrade my hardware.
Granted a G4/733 doesnt provide enough power to run more than a few virtual instruments and some audio tracks, but its not back all things considered.
I will probably not upgrade to Pro 7 and just wait for now as Pro 6 gives me all I need.
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4 com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 0x02a48901 ResolveFile + 55009
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 6:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90179d36 mach_wait_until + 10
1 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9affe7f8 MPDelayUntil + 29
2 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9b010694 Delay + 108
3 se.propellerheads.rewire.library 0x19788654 RWIsReWireMixerAppRunningImp + 30420
4 se.propellerheads.rewire.library 0x19797228 RWIsReWireMixerAppRunningImp + 90792
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 7:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90179c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x901791f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923cb9da __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 170
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923d4b04 __CFRunLoopRun + 1428
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923d41dc CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 332
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923e4f01 CFRunLoopRun + 129
6 com.celemony.melodyne.rewiredevice 0x198f4866 RWDEFGetDeviceInfo + 821702
7 com.celemony.melodyne.rewiredevice 0x198cec7a RWDEFGetDeviceInfo + 667098
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 8:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017cef2 __sem_wait + 10
1 com.celemony.melodyne.rewiredevice 0x198ec072 RWDEFGetDeviceInfo + 786898
2 com.celemony.melodyne.rewiredevice 0x1982c1cc RWDEFGetDeviceInfo + 812
3 com.celemony.melodyne.rewiredevice 0x198cec7a RWDEFGetDeviceInfo + 667098
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 9:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90179c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x901791f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923cb9da __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 170
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923d4b04 __CFRunLoopRun + 1428
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923d41dc CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 332
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923e4f01 CFRunLoopRun + 129
6 com.celemony.MelodyneRewireDevice 0x1a45f659 GNMessagePortLoop(void*) + 143
7 com.celemony.MelodyneRewireDevice 0x1a478e33 GNThreadHandler(void*) + 103
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 10:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017bb7a __sem_wait_nocancel + 10
1 com.celemony.MelodyneRewireDevice 0x1a45926c GNCondition::waitForSignal() + 32
2 com.celemony.MelodyneRewireDevice 0x1a4518dd GNReWire2AudioDeviceHost::workerThreadFunction(void*) + 99
3 com.celemony.MelodyneRewireDevice 0x1a478e33 GNThreadHandler(void*) + 103
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 11:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017b83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e91e21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e4242c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.music.apps.MAAudioEngine 0x02b1c3a9 MDFileIOThread_IsBusy + 3593
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 12:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90179c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x901791f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x0138bf67 XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 101
3 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x013aef5b MIDIProcess::RunMIDIInThread() + 259
4 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x013af8e2 MIDIProcess::MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 24
5 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x0138d53b XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17
6 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x0138cf05 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 123
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 13:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017b83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e91e78 _pthread_cond_wait + 914
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e91f7b pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9af9b3a7 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 178
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9af9b11d TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 490
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9af9af2e TSWaitOnSemaphoreRelative + 24
6 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9b010398 TimerThread + 292
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 14:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017bb42 __select + 10
1 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0096fc07 void UnitTest::CheckEqual<ScTypeSetter::tVerticalAlignment, ScTypeSetter::tVerticalAlignment>(UnitTest::TestResults&, ScTypeSetter::tVerticalAlignment, ScTypeSetter::tVerticalAlignment, UnitTest::TestDetails const&) + 375367
2 com.apple.logic.pro 0x005b1d84 std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 5724676
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 15:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90179c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x901791f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.izotope.audioplugins.AU.Nectar 0x204632c0 catch_exception_raise + 1392
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 16:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90179c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x901791f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.izotope.audioplugins.AU.Alloy2 0x437b1ac6 0x43765000 + 314054
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 17:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017b83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e91e21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e4242c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.music.apps.MAAudioEngine 0x02afef7c MD::CallProcessThread1(void*) + 108
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 18:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017b83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e91e21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e4242c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.music.apps.MAAudioEngine 0x02afecfc MD::CallProcessThread2(void*) + 124
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 19:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017b83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e91e21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e4242c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.music.apps.MAAudioEngine 0x02afcbac MD::CallProcessThread15(void*) + 124
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 20:: com.apple.audio.IOThread.client
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90179c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x901791f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9adc29d6 HALB_MachPort::SendMessageWithReply(unsigned int, unsigned int, unsigned long, unsigned long, mach_msg_header_t*, unsigned int) + 122
3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9adc2a42 HALB_MachPort::SendSimpleMessageWithSimpleReply(unsigned int, unsigned int, int, int&, unsigned int) + 60
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9adbae37 HALC_ProxyIOContext::IOWorkLoop() + 1145
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9adba8fe HALC_ProxyIOContext::IOThreadEntry(void*) + 136
6 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9adba870 __HALC_ProxyIOContext_block_invoke_6 + 20
7 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9adba7f5 HALB_IOThread::Entry(void*) + 69
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 21:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017b83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e91e21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e423e0 pthread_cond_timedwait$UNIX2003 + 70
3 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar 0x208b9fb2 0x204ad000 + 4247474
4 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar 0x206c19fd 0x204ad000 + 2181629
5 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar 0x2087ab7d 0x204ad000 + 3988349
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 22 Crashed:: com.apple.appkit-heartbeat
0 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x924def43 __addAltHandler2 + 83
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9243427c _CFDoExceptionOperation + 652
2 com.apple.Foundation 0x996807e9 _NSAddExceptionHandlerForLock + 33
3 com.apple.AppKit 0x986863a2 _NSAppKitLock + 78
4 com.apple.AppKit 0x986fb88c -[NSApplication _keyWindowForHeartBeat] + 49
5 com.apple.AppKit 0x988d0168 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 1005
6 com.apple.Foundation 0x996b0e25 -[NSThread main] + 45
7 com.apple.Foundation 0x996b0dd5 __NSThread__main__ + 1582
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 23:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90179c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x901791f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.izotope.audioplugins.AU.RX2Declicker 0x214c9140 catch_exception_raise + 1344
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 24:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017b83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e91e21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e423e0 pthread_cond_timedwait$UNIX2003 + 70
3 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar 0x208b9fb2 0x204ad000 + 4247474
4 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar 0x206c19fd 0x204ad000 + 2181629
5 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar 0x2087ab7d 0x204ad000 + 3988349
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 25:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90179c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x901791f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.izotope.audioplugins.AU.RX2HumRemoval 0x31d6b140 catch_exception_raise + 1344
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 26:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017b83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e91e21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e4242c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.line6.delayfarm.au 0x3f062db6 MojoEntry + 388168
4 com.line6.delayfarm.au 0x3f036510 MojoEntry + 205730
5 com.line6.delayfarm.au 0x3f061968 MojoEntry + 382970
6 com.line6.delayfarm.au 0x3f062e39 MojoEntry + 388299
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 27:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90179c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x901791f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923cb9da __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 170
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923d4b04 __CFRunLoopRun + 1428
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923d41dc CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 332
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923e4f01 CFRunLoopRun + 129
6 com.line6.twxy 0x8258c34f TWXCommandInterface + 1126335
7 com.line6.twxy 0x82595182 TWXCommandInterface + 1162738
8 com.line6.twxy 0x82596fa3 TWXCommandInterface + 1170451
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
10 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 28:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90179c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x901791f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923cb9da __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 170
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923d4b04 __CFRunLoopRun + 1428
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923d41dc CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 332
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923e4f01 CFRunLoopRun + 129
6 com.line6.twxy 0x824a0459 TWXCommandInterface + 159945
7 com.line6.twxy 0x825dc699 TWXCommandInterface + 1454857
8 com.line6.twxy 0x825dda99 TWXCommandInterface + 1459977
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
10 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 29:: Dispatch queue: CFPreferences Background Sync Queue
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017b876 __psynch_mutexwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8c6af pthread_mutex_lock + 633
2 libobjc.A.dylib 0x960dcd14 lockForMethodLookup + 80
3 libobjc.A.dylib 0x960dc6c9 lookUpMethod + 279
4 libobjc.A.dylib 0x960e74bb _class_lookupMethodAndLoadCache + 40
5 libobjc.A.dylib 0x960dbd83 objc_msgSend + 83
6 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923a16f9 __CFStringChangeSizeMultiple + 2089
7 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923a51f1 CFStringAppend + 417
8 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923a0410 __CFStringAppendFormatCore + 12336
9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923a502e CFStringCreateWithFormat + 110
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923e51e8 __CFXPreferencesGetSourceForTriplet + 280
11 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923e50ae ___CFXPreferencesSynchronize_block_invoke_1 + 46
12 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923e5068 ____CFXPREFS_SYNC_LOCKED_block_invoke_1 + 40
13 libdispatch.dylib 0x986312d2 _dispatch_barrier_sync_f_invoke + 30
14 libdispatch.dylib 0x98631762 dispatch_barrier_sync_f + 87
15 libdispatch.dylib 0x986318b8 dispatch_sync + 45
16 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x923e5016 CFPreferencesSynchronize + 246
17 com.ikmultimedia.vpa.AmpliTube 3 0x8b117443 0x8a800000 + 9532483
18 com.ikmultimedia.vpa.AmpliTube 3 0x8a91dad1 0x8a800000 + 1170129
19 com.ikmultimedia.vpa.AmpliTube 3 0x8a925cc0 0x8a800000 + 1203392
20 com.ikmultimedia.vpa.AmpliTube 3 0x8aa28d01 0x8a800000 + 2264321
21 com.ikmultimedia.vpa.AmpliTube 3 0x8aa28c2f 0x8a800000 + 2264111
22 com.ikmultimedia.vpa.AmpliTube 3 0x8b0a2c9b 0x8a800000 + 9055387
23 com.ikmultimedia.vpa.AmpliTube 3 0x8b0a385a 0x8a800000 + 9058394
24 com.ikmultimedia.vpa.AmpliTube 3 0x8ab326a7 0x8a800000 + 3352231
25 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
26 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 30:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017c02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8fccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 31:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017b83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e91e21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e423e0 pthread_cond_timedwait$UNIX2003 + 70
3 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar 0x208b9fb2 0x204ad000 + 4247474
4 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar 0x206c19fd 0x204ad000 + 2181629
5 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar 0x2087ab7d 0x204ad000 + 3988349
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 32:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9017b83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e91e21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e423e0 pthread_cond_timedwait$UNIX2003 + 70
3 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar 0x208b9fb2 0x204ad000 + 4247474
4 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar 0x206c19fd 0x204ad000 + 2181629
5 com.izotope.audioplugins.Nectar 0x2087ab7d 0x204ad000 + 3988349
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e8ded9 _pthread_start + 335
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x91e916de thread_start + 34
Thread 22 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x138f5990 ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0xffffffff
edi: 0xe0ed2aa0 esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xb0ab9c28 esp: 0xb0ab9c00
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010282 eip: 0x924def43 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x0000001f gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x00000000
Logical CPU: 1
Binary Images:
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0x44804000 - 0x44955ff3 +com.soundlib.gplayer (2.0.1 - 2.0.1) <4D0CFFC7-395B-4B47-C130-155A14529817> /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/G-Player.component/Contents/MacOS/G-Player
0x485d4000 - 0x486d7feb +com.toontrack.superior.auezdrummer (1.3.1 - 1.3.1) <9E5BC79A-D849-7A2F-F94C-AFB10EDA603F> /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/EZdrummer.component/Contents/MacOS/EZdrummerUnfortunately, pirating of Logic and third party plugins is rampant, even in this, an Apple forum.
Apple doesn't seem to mind as long as it sells hardware... that's what bothers me the most, there's no doubt in my mind it "cheapens" the program, at least among professionals. Take an honest assessment of what has happened in this forum the past year and a half and be deadly honest about it.. what conclusions can you draw?
The latest version of Logic and OSX do not even play well together and I'm not talking about the channel EQ freeze, track count is way down (on every computer I've tested running 10.8.x) and audio glitches are way up.
Furthermore, Apple lists the minimum requirement for running Logic as 2GB. The latest version of OSX uses huge chunks of memory, so much so that Logic is nearly unusable for anything.. but it runs Logic just enough that a new users will want probably upgrade to a new, faster system with more memory. $$$
Listing the minimum requirement at 2GB is particularly cheesy even if it is true. -
Logic is using 16.000.000 TerraByte physical Ram??? See picture:
Hi, I got really massive problems with crashes of Logic. I have a absolute clean and new system with nothing more than Logic and OSX!
Look at that:
[img]http://www.xcellent-productions.de/downloads/activity.png[/img]
The most crashes I got when I have loaded lots of stuff in the EXS and after that opening the Logic preferences (over the menu) or closing that song and opening a new one. It doesn't matter if I use the internal audio driver or an external (Fireface400)
Any suggestions?
XcellHi,
first of all the terminal top is showing the same.
The problem should everyone of you simply rebuild. I got some (expensive) new 2 GB (now 5 GB at all) but nothing changes because Logic is only able to adress 2 GB Ram. I thought that was a joke, but it's not. Everytime Logic is using more than 2GB the activity window is showing this 16mio stuff.
So, what is that???
I can put 16GB Ram into my Computer and am able to use just 2 of them??? The MacPro is fast enough to open 100 of EXS but can't load instruments? I am really frustrated.
So, does anyone has any advice how I could make the physical Ram used by Logic smaller? I tried to use harddisc speed fast and recording activity less in the virtual memory, but than I can use about one instrument more (28 at all). What is with other samplers like Kontakt. Is it using the same Ram logic is using or does it use a new thread and it's own Ram? Does Redmaticas EXS Manager merge function is of any use against too much Ram using instruments?
Any advice would be very very great!!!!
Reagrds,
Axel -
Is Logic Pro X compatible with my Apollo Twin?
Is Logic Pro X compatible with Apollo Twin?
The question is: Is Apollo Twin "Core Audio" compatible.
Logic uses OSX's core audio system so if the Apollo has Core Audio drivers that are compatible with the version of OSX you're using then Logic will see the Apollo Twin as an available audio device you use. This is done using Logic's built-in Audio preference selection. -
Report: Moved from 10.58 to 10.62 and Logic 9.1
I held off as long as I could but then bit the bullet. I think my Magic Mouse was begging me to do it so I could enjoy the new scrolling features:)
At any rate, been working all day today and Logic is behaving just fine. I am still getting some Disk Too Slow messages and beginning to wonder whether my record drive needs replacing (2 years in). But am happy to say that all appears to be well, and have also installed the new Pro Kit update.
Whew!
THA few months back, I did the jump from Tiger and Logic 8 straight to the latest everything, Snow Leopard and Logic 9.. Of course I did a complete clone of my system first, and was not working on any important projects at the time so I too braced myself for everything to go haywire. But similarly to you, it went like clockwork, and it's all running way better than anticipated. So far I've had zero crashes in Logic, except from opening an older project from Logic 8 which had a movie in it, but I've gotten around that. Have worked on some very intensive projects (intensive at least for a MBP), using video, loads of sampler instruments, synths, plug ins, UAD2 laptop card.. and I have to say that so far it's feeling like the most stable combination of Logic and OSX that I've worked with in a while. I'm not exactly a flag-waving fanboy, just a seasoned pro user, so it's been a pleasant surprise to have a pretty reliable DAW to work with. I decided to bypass Leopard because we have it on the computers at the studio, and the Logic 8 + OSX 10.5x combo was giving us several crashes a day, plus weird display issues in the finder (strange grey bars in finder windows), and just a whole lot of general flakiness. So I'm glad I decided to skip that one and go straight to where I am now.
Btw, not bothering with 64bit as it's not of any use on my MBP. Suits me fine, by the time I get a bigger machine with enough RAM to make 64bit worthwhile, the waters should have settled down a little on that front.
Are you still running smoothly a few days into it? -
I'm using logic pro 7.1 and OSx 10.4.2 ,i use rewire for reason and all works fine , but i'm interested in new AU instruments and fx that require more up to date versions ...Should i keep upgrading my logic and OSx to keep up with the times or just be happy with what i've got...? Will the latest system upgrades to both logic and OSx be more beneficial to me , or just more headaches.?..cheers
I'm using logic pro 7.1 and OSx 10.4.2 ,i use rewire
for reason and all works fine , but i'm interested in
new AU instruments and fx that require more up to
date versions ...Should i keep upgrading my logic and
OSx to keep up with the times or just be happy with
what i've got...? Will the latest system upgrades to
both logic and OSx be more beneficial to me , or just
more headaches.?..cheers
personally, I upgrade when I cannot do what I need to do. if your system is stable and you can do exactly what you need to do then leave it alone. If you get on the 'upgrading computers and hardware' every time a new version comes out it is an addiction and can sometimes stop you creating music.
Many computer assisted writers are more interested in setting up their equipment and getting a nice little clean studio set up than they are creating music. My system works perfectly, I will wait until something juicy comes out that I would like to try and then if my present system doesn't support it I will upgrade then.
Ask yourself what type of musician / composer/ prodecer you are? am you looking for a nice little clean set up where you have full control of the rocketship? or do you want to get some work done? If you are a working type guy, then pick your moments carefully as a stable system can be a wonderful thing. If you are not a work priority guy then upgrade every three minutes and have fun figuring it all out. -
What happened to Emagic's good old AMT = Advanced Midi Timing in Logic 7, 8
I wonder if anybody knows if Apple dropped the AMT-algorithm enabeling Emagic's AMT 8 and Unitor 8 Mk 1 and 2 to be more accurate in Midi timing than ordinary interfaces without AMT are. The last button/check box that was related to AMT (Advanced Midi Timing) I saw was in Logic 6. Steinberg and Motu had their own timing accuracy systems then.
Since in the whole Logic Studio manual AMT is not mentioned a single time I supposed this very useful tool has been sacrificed by Apple's dingy future spirit.
Not to be misunderstood: I know the interfaces can be installed and are supported and be run by the actual machines and systems as normal Midi interfaces .Just having a random search around:
http://developer.apple.com/audio/pdf/coreaudio.pdf
"The MIDIPacketList are a time-stamped list of packets to or from one endpoint.
All MIDI I/O functions use this structure. The MIDIPacket contains one or
more simultaneous MIDI events."
Also, back when Logic was first going in OSX, emagic had an article about this as well, although that's long since gone.
OSX's time stamping isn't exactly the same as AMT in detail, but is in essence the same thing. AMT works by time stamping events ahead of time, so the interface can fire them off as close to perfectly as the current MIDI stream allows. If you have two events at 1 1 1 1, but on different ports, an AMT interface can fire those events at precisely the same time, which can't happen with a regular (non-timestamped) MIDI stream, as the stream is serial in nature.
Because OSX has time stamping built in to the MIDI server, theoretically all MIDI output operations under OSX should take advantage of this - but at the geeky levels, I haven't been programming with this so I'm not completely up on all the details - it maybe that programs have to be written specifically to take advantage of it.
In any case, it's these reasons why AMT was never supported in Logic under OSX - it was basically redundant.
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