Logic 7.2.x and Battery

I need your Help. I have Battery 3 running Logic 7.2.x on a G4 OSX 10.4.10
Problem #1:
When I setup my kit outside of Logic in Battery, including my controller key assignments and sounds, then save the kit, close Battery, Open logic, call Battery from the an instrument strip, I cannot trigger the pads from the same controller that was used outside of Logic.
Problem #2:
when I open Battery in Logic, and assign the pads to various AUX and then set those AUX to the various Battery assignments, I can only monitor Battery sounds if Logic is palying, not while it is still.
Thanks in advance.

Hi rockfort,
I can't help as I don't have Battery, but there is a separate Logic Pro 7 forum than this one.
I know you're thinking that there are people here that can answer this question, but they aren't using LP7 much, if at all any more and Battery may be acting differently with LP8 than with 7. Hense the forum separation.
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....wonderful.
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