Logic 7 songs sound different in Logic 8 - why?

i am not guessing. bounce, phase invert, mix the two, and it is really strange.
what i've seen quickly, that the adaptive limiter plugin has changed a little.
setting a -0.1dB ceiling in 7 causes -0.1dB peak, in 8, it will be 0.
but there must be something else. or is it the adaptive limiter plugin that has changed?
can't be. the comparsion above shows it will be something else.

SteveDjokes wrote:
1) Did you try phase canceling the bounces b4 converting them to Mp3? If so What happened
2) Have you compared the wave files at close zoom - to see if they seem to differ somehow
3) Did you bounce without any plugs running at all - if not it would surely interest the H out me if you were to.... and then compare
Hi Steve,
This was all mentioned in that original thread, but I realize it got kind of long, so I'll reiterate here.
First off, all my tests were done with 24 bit/44.1k files. The mp3's only came into existence once I decided to post the files on-line.
My first test was to bounce a section of that song in version 7, using no plug-ins. I then opened that same mix in version 8, and hit bounce. Phase flipped the mix in version 7, against the mix done in version 8, and it completely cancelled.
I then added some Logic EQ's and compressors, as well as one Space Designer verb (used only a bit on the snare) in Logic 7, and then bounced. Opened the new mix with plug-ins in version 8, and then bounced. Phase flipped those two mixes, and they did not cancel.
I never did look closely at the waveforms to see if anything visibly was happening. Although the mix that didn't null wasn't "almost" nulled, the acoustic guitars were quite audible, and the drums, although they sounded distant (which I chalked up to the use of the Space Designer verb) were very audible as well.
What I found REALLY interesting though, was I had some compression on the bass, and some EQ on the electric guitars, and both those instruments completely cancelled in the null test.

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