Logic 8 and TDM with Expansion Chassis ???

I'm wondering if anyone knows if the new Logic will work with TDM and an expansion chassis ?? The G5 & Mac Pro machines only have 3 pci slots meaning that larger TDM systems require an expansion chassis to hold the digidesign cards. I know from painful experience that Logic 7 DOES NOT WORK with TDM when an expansion chassis is part of the system. Has apple addressed this in the new Logic release ??

yes, it works. We have a system running logic pro 8, PT 7.3.x with a magma expansion chassis fully expanded with accell cards. no problem at all. I am however, having a problem with a newer system, I will post about that on a separate post.

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Audio between Logic and Max with Aggregate Device Tutorial

Here is a link to my tutorial that shows how to create an Aggregate device and use it to send audio from Max to Logic and vice versa.
click the "logic help files" link at the top of this page:
http://home.lagrange.edu/mturner/
Hope this is helpful,
Mitch
http://home.lagrange.edu/mturner

Edgar rothermich let me know that he has written a great deal on the Aggregate Device:
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For more in-depth explanation of the Aggregate Device settings and Audio Devices in general download my Personal Manual "Logic 7.2 Audio Devices"
The free pdf file is available on my website at:
http://homepage.mac.com/edgarrothermich/Manuals.html
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Check our his Personal Manual for greater detail.
Mitch

Q ? How do I import my work that I with logic and FCP with 5.1 audio to ATV

I work as a professional musician and work on soundtracks and when I finish & bounce my mix I want to take the .mov file home and watch it on my ATV . Actually thats why I brought the ATV so I could watch and listen to what I have done in the studio at home ...
Please is there a way to do this ? Or is this great little box doomed to buying or renting films from the itunes site ?

yildox wrote:
I think I just found the answer to my question..
Quicktime has a itunes export feature so therefor I can directly send the .mov file into ATV automatically great I didn't know it was so easy ..
I wasn't sure whether that preset worked with 5.1. and had assumed you had tried it.
If your content is HD, the tv preset will export at a resolution of 540p, being in Europe your source material is probably 25 fps which would allow you to manually use compressor to create a 720p export which will play on the tv. Although a little more work than a preset once you have found an optimal export setting you can create your own preset if your manual export proves to be of better quality.
Buy the way can ATV read directly from a usb hard disk connected to the ATV ?
No.

Logic 8 TDM not working

Hi - I have the following setup.
Intel Dual Core Xeon 3 GHz
Protools 7.4
Logic 8.0.2
OSX 10.4.9
Protools HD 3 connected to Apogee AD16x (via Digilink) and then to Apogee DA16X.
In Preferences - Audio I have selected TDM driver Only. I am not getting any sound. When it plays an error message comes up 'Error while trying to synchronize Audio and MIDI'
I can get sound using Digicore Audio but am limited to 8 outputs and cannot use my TDM.
Does anybody have a similar setup working? Any ideas on how to get it working?
Cheers
G

We had the same problem.
I remember something like it mattered from partitions on the harddisc.
We found the hint on the Digiforum. After removing partitions it worked.
But sad to say, Logic and TDM don't work really together. There are so many annoying things I would need pages to describe.
I moved now to PT. Boring but working.
Tim

Mac Pro/Intel with Logic 8, HD Accel Hardware, Expansion Chassis - Anyone?

Hi,
I'm wondering if anyone out there is running a Mac Pro/Intel with Logic 8 and an HD Accel system with an expansion chassis. Apple does not support running Logic with HD hardware with an expansion chassis. However, we have been running one successfully (sort of) with Logic 8 on a G5. Unfortunately, the chassis we have doesn't provide the bandwidth that we need to get the track counts that we are looking for, so we are considering upgrading to a Mac Pro with either the Magma PE6R4 chassis or the Magma 64 bit 7 slot chassis. Anyone tried either of these configurations?
Thanks,
Ken Lewis
www.logicmixing.com

Hi,
I am running Logic Studio 8 on my Mac Pro 4-core 2.66 (specs below) using internal HDs only and it runs like a charm.
No overload message yet and it seems to me that I have to do feed it a lot more than I do right now to even come close to an overload message.
So with a 2.8 8-core you are well in line and should have quite some reserves.
My personal opinion is, if you can afford the money for the Mac Pro, go for it.
Have Fun
Stefan

When I open logic express 8 with eyetv open but not active and i close logic express 8 and make eyetv active it won't show closed captioning even though closed captioning is turned on

when I open logic express 8 with eyetv open but not active and i close logic express 8 and make eyetv active eyetv won't show closed captioning even though closed captioning is turned on. When I totally close eyetv and reopen eyetv and open a live tv window the closed captioning comes back. I never noticed this with os leopard, Just after i installed os snow leopard. All software is up to date only I think, thanks to apple they droped support for logic express. Thanks for any suggestions.

Does toggling CC off & back on bring it back?
"Try Disk Utility
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu at top of the screen. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Select your Mac OS X volume.
5. Click Repair Disk, (not Repair Permissions). Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214
Then try a Safe Boot, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when it completes.
(Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive.)
If perchance you can't find your install Disc, at least try it from the Safe Boot part onward.

Not able to install Logic on mac with OSX. 10.8.2. Error message: Logic Studio.mpkg cannot be opened as the power pc programs are no longer supported. I have logic studio 8 software purchased in 2007 and upgraded with logic studio 9 (purchased in 2009)

After an earlier attempt to move Logic from my other mac (OSX 10.6.8) with the migration assistant to my new mac with OSX 10.8.2. I've re-started the whole start up process by erasing the hard drive from the new machine and build it up from scratch. After a new "out of the box" start, I decided to install LOGIC from my disks : starting with my 2007 package Logic Studio 8 and upgrading with my Logic 9 package from 2009. When trying to start to install 2008 I got the error message : Logic Studio.mpkg cannot be opened as the power pc programs are no longer supported.
What does this mean? HOw do I get this working under 10.8.2 as it works flawlessly under OSX 10.6.8. For sure I didn't buy a new machine to have OSX 10.8.2 but I suspect this is the roadblock to installing my logic package.
Help!

Mark,
Sorry...
I completely lost the thread (I actually got confused between you and another poster on a another forum that was asking the same basic question) and somehow ended up thinking you were trying to install on a PPC Mac
My apologies and please ingnore those parts of my last post relating to the PPC Macs...
You have an Intel Mac and therefore Logic Studio 2 Boxed Upgrade set should install/run on your Mac without issue. As I said earlier.. you do not need to try and install from the original Logic Studio 1 /Logic 8 Boxed set...(It won't work anyhow because you have an Intel Mac and that version had a PPC installer) but just install from the Logic Studio 2 / Logic Pro 9 Upgrade Boxed setof DVDs instead...
Have you tried the "Make Disk Image" solution I gave earlier? That normnally works under such circumstances as what you are describing can happen when your DVD drive cannot read the DVDs correctly... I have had this situation myself where one drive read them okay and another failed to do so for whatever reason. Making and then installing from Disk images of those exact same disks resolved the issue for me...
You can try to reinstall directly from the DVDs of course though under some circumstances it may not allow you to reinstall Logic Pro itself if that part of the original installation attempt was successful... in which case you can also try this... (It's probably the easiest method if Logic 9 was already installed and present in your Apps Folder)
If the Logic Pro App is in your applications folder..
Run Software Updates to update Logic Pro to a version that will run under 10.8.2 (The initially installed version of Logic will not)
Run Logic
Go to the menu bar in Logic and select Logic Pro/Install Additional Content and select all content in there..
This content is basically exactly the same as what is stored on the remaining DVDs of the boxed set so you might not need to use the rest of the DVDs to install from but download it all instead from Apple Servers...

Noob needs help with Logic and Motu live setup.

Hello everyone,
I'm a noob / semi noob who could use some help with a live setup using 2 MOTU 896HD's and Logic on a Mac.
Here's the scenario:
I teach an outdoor marching percussion section (a drumline and a front ensemble of marimbas and vibes). We have an amazing setup of live sound to amplify and enhance the mallet percussion. There is a yamaha PA system with 2 subs and 2 mains which are routed through a rack unit that processes the overall PA balance. I'm pretty sure that the unit is supposed to avoid feedback and do an overall cross-over EQ of the sound. Other then that unit, we have 2 motu896hd units which are routed via fire-wire. I also have a coax cable routing the output of the secondary box to the input of the primary box (digital i/o which converts to ADAT in (i think?)..?
Here's the confusion:
There are more then 8 inputs being used from the ensemble itself, so I need the 16 available inputs to be available in Logic. I was lead to believe that the 2nd motu unit would have to be sent digitally to the 1st motu unit via coax digital i/o. Once in Logic, however, I cannot find the signal or any input at all past the 8th input (of the 1st unit).
Here's the goal:
All of my performers and inputs routed via firewire into a Mac Mini running OSX and Logic pro.
I want to be able to use MainStage and run different patches of effects / virt. instruments for a midi controller keyboard / etc.
I want to be able to EQ and balance the ensemble via Logic.
Here's another question:
How much latency will I be dealing with? Would a mac mini with 4gb of ram be able to handle this load? With percussion, I obviously want the sound as latency free as possible. I also, however, want the flexibility of sound enhancement / modification that comes with Logic and the motu896hd units.
Any help would be REALLY appreciated. I need the routing assistance along with some direction as to whether or not this will work for this type of application. I'm pretty certain it does, as I have spoken with some other teachers in similar venues and they have been doing similar things using mac mini's / logic / mainstage / etc.
Thanks in advance,
Chris

You'll definitely want to read the manual to make sure the 896HDs are connected together properly. ADAT is a little tricky, it's not just a matter of cabling them together. Go to motunation.com if you need more guidance on connecting multiple devices. Beyond that initial hookup, here are a couple of quick suggestions:
1. Open CueMix and see if both devices are reported there. If not, your connections aren't correct. Be sure to select 44.1kHz as your sample rate, otherwise you are reducing the number of additional channels. For instance at 88.2kHz you would get half the additional channels via ADAT.
2. You may need to create an aggregate device for the MacBook to recognize more than the first 896HD. Lots of help on this forum for how to do that. Again, first make sure you have the 896HDs connected together properly.
3. As for latency with Mainstage on the Mini, no way to know until you try it. Generally MOTU is fantastic for low latency work but Mainstage is a question mark for a lot of users right now. If the Mini can't cut the mustard, you have a great excuse to upgrade to a MacBook Pro.

TS4498 Is music created in logic pro compatible with the logic pro x ? for instance if you have created something in logic pro and wont to add or tweak it a bit is that possible?

Is music created in logic pro compatible with the logic pro x ? for instance if you have created something in logic pro and want to add or tweak it, is that possible? I suppose you would need the original logic folder?

Yes it is more or less compatible, except the use of 32 bit plugins, which is prohibited from now on. So although you're able to open Logic projects as far as down to v5 I believe, it is advisable to remain for 'adding and tweaking' in your pre LPX environment.
Have a nice day!

Hello,i have a retina with Mountain Lion.I have logic PRO 7 and logic Pro 8 ,with G5.I can't use the CD with the retina!!It's not a powerpC!!How do i install Logic Studio 8 with Mountain Lion successfully ?too évolution Logic PRO 9?

Hello,i have a retina with Mountain Lion.I have logic PRO 7 and logic Pro 8 ,with G5.I can't use the CD with the retina!!It's not a powerpC!!How do i install Logic Studio 8 with Mountain Lion successfully ?too évolution Logic PRO 9?

The installer for Logic Pro 8 has a bug which keeps it from operating in Lion or Mt. Lion. Use the program Pacifist to install it.

I have just bought a 2011 iMac (2.5 ghz, 4gb) and logic express 9, and when i installed logic and tried to run it i had a message saying 'you can't use this version of the application logic express with this version of Mac OS X. How do i sort this out!?

I have just bought a 2011 iMac (2.5 ghz, 4gb) and logic express 9, and when i installed logic and tried to run it i had a message saying 'you can't use this version of the application logic express with this version of Mac OS X. How do i sort this out!? It is very frustrating as the main reason i have bought a mac is to use logic! Any help would be great as i am a complete novice when it comes to Macs!

You're probably on OS X Lion?
I had the same problem as you. I used Software Update to update Logic Express to the latest version, and then it ran without any problems.

How can I use JTA in my business logic and execute process with PAPI?

HI All,
How can I use JTA in my business logic and execute process with PAPI?
When my business logic has exception, the process will rollback.
or the process has some exceptions, my business logic also will rollback.
I don't know how to do it.
Does anyone know how to do it?

Thank you for your reply, Daniel.
But I think I did not express my mind clearly.
There is a scene that I have 2 Application Server.
My business code is deployed in one Server.
The BPM is deployed in another Server.
I want to execute Task use PAPI.(ProcessServiceSession.runActivity)
In my business code, I will do something before execute Task.
I need my business logic and Task in same transaction.
To ensure them "all-or-nothing" .
As you say, if The transactions are managed by Oracle BPM.
then can I retrieve OBPM transcaction in my business code?

Fixed a problem with OSX-Logic and a MOTU 828MkII

I was having problems with my 828MkII using it with a new G5 and OS10.3.9. There were massive drop-outs.
It was a new computer and everything was installed correctly and cleanly - there was no other hardware installed other than the MOTU, and no other software other than Logic 7 - everything was done properly and tested over and over, but the problem persisted.
I still had my old G4 with an older OS9 version of Logic, and when I went back to try the MOTU with this set up, it worked flawlessly. This fact made me suspect that the core audio driver was the problem, so I tried all the tricks I've seen in forums - reset the MOTU - uninstalled and re-installed. Upgraded my firmware. Even tried OS10.4 with old drivers new drivers, and still nothing worked.
Then out of desperation I tried a new firewire cable and everything worked fine.
I went back and tried the set up on my OS9 machine a few times and the MOTU worked flawlessly under the Asio2 drivers. What I learned is that OSX and core audio must use firewire differently because the cable did not work with that set up.
I couldn't believe it. It's like finding out that a guitar cable only works with a Les Paul or something wierd like that.
I'm sure someone out there must know the technical difference and why this cable works fine under OS9 (Asio2) but not OSX (core audio).
I'm posting this because if I had read such a post - I would have tried a new cable as the first thing - but I had myself convinced that it could not be the cable. I still don't believe it. ! Luckily it was the cheapest fix.
Scott.

Same thing happened here when I check all items to install at once.
After the installation failure , L7,L8,Waveburner .. everything unexpectedly quit then I decided to replace the entire OS to cloned back up.
I tried the installation again and xxxx happened again. This time, I installed only applications (overwritten) again and it fixed the problem.
Then I installed only JamPack on FW and went smoothly.
I called Apple Tech and now I am waiting for the new installer DVDs of Audio contents only by regular mail.
Hey, do we have similar serial number?? Apple script got damaged or something? I have no idea.

TDMS with timestamp and configurable channels

I am trying to figure out a good way to determine how to line up data in a TDMS file with corresponding timestamps when the user in my application adds channels.
Here's the scenario,
Lets say I've been recording 10 channels (called Ch0,Ch1...Ch9) in a group called 'Data'. My data appears as follows in the TDMS file:
(10 Ch's, 3 Samples)
Timestamp
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Let's say now the user decides to add an additional channel to the group. The TDMS write function will add the channel, but the new data does not line up with the corresponding timestamp, instead it start writing to the first row as follows:
(11 Ch's, 6 samples, 3 new channel samples)
Timestamp
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I would want it to appear as follows:
Timestamp
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Other than just starting a brand new TDMS file, can anyone think of a way to line the data up with its corresponding timestamp in this scenario? Or if there is a way to determine what the corresponding timestamp is when I read in the TDMS file.
Any help is appreciated
Thanks,
-CAC

From your description that the channel values have their corresponding timestamp, I assume that you are writing the waveform data rather than those basic data type(integer, double, etc.) which do not have any timestamp related information.
The reason that the new data in Ch10 does not line up with the same timestamp data in other channels is because:
When writing data to a channel, it cannot leave the first several positions vacant, and start writing from the nthe position.
From the view of TDMS as a file format, it should only be responsible for data logging, and not assume any relationship between channels.
In your case, the new data in Ch10 channel should have the timestamp starting from 12:00:04 AM to 12:00:06 AM, these data are definitely stored from the first position of Ch10, and .tdms file format cannot do anything to line up the data between channels.
Timestamp
Ch0
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12:00:01 AM
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For your second question, there is a approach to determine the corresponding timestamp of each channel data read out from .tdms file. The waveform data type is stored in .tdms file in the form of three components:
Value array value[ ]
Starting time stamp t0, which is the base timestamp of a channel (or the timestamp of the first value in this channel)
Time increment dt, the time interval between two data samples. (e.g. one sample per second, dt=1.0; four samples per second, then dt=0.25)
So it's very easy to calculate the Timestamp of value[index] = t0 + (dt * index) (0 <= index < num of samples in value[])
Here is a VI in the attachment that demonstrates how to get the timestamp of each value in the channel.
Regards,
Tianbin
Attachments:
GetDataTimestamp.vi ‏21 KB

Hi, ive been having trouble passing my logic sessions to another computer, we're both using a macbook pro 10.6.8 and logic pro 9 with the same plugins, the session opens in the other computer but all the synths reset to presets

Hi, ive been having trouble passing my logic sessions to another computer, we're both using a macbook pro 10.6.8 and logic pro 9 with the same plugins (native instruments komplete 7), the session opens in the other computer but all the synths reset to presets, this didnt happen the first time I shared a session, but its been happening lately quite often

kwmlr439 wrote:
CSOUND Read the title please:
Re: Macbook Pro 10.6.8 RAM Upgarde to 8 GB
The amount of RAM is not dependant on the operating system. It is all about the model of you Mac.
10.6.8 is the version of OS X that is installed on your system. It has no real baring on the amount of RAM that CAN be installed.
Personally I have never had good luck with Corsair RAM. I have always had good luck with Crucial and Kingston.
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