Logic 8 Latency from running multi-channel plug-ins (Ezdrum

I'm using Logic 8 (w/Leopard) with a butt load of plugins. I especially depend on the drum plugins (EZ drum and RMX) When one runs them as "multi-channel" (versus stereo--the only way to use them dynamically in my opinion) one cannot (in Logic 8) freeze to audio. That feature doesn't exist. Subsequently, one is faced with creating tracks in simple stereo or not use the plug-in at all!! Using stereo or not using these plugins is not an option for me...Using them as is COMPROMISES performance and creates VERY difficult latency issues.
My fix I'm told is to add more RAM...any other suggestions? BTW, if I buy up (snow leopard/Lion, Logic 9, new IMAC) I'm faced with a major labor intensive task of reinstalling or updating all my plugin software--not something I really want to do.
Thanks.

I ran Activity Monitor while opening a few projects in Logic. And it seems that I only have about 560MB of RAM left to play with once the song loads. Before I open Logic I have about 1.5GB of RAM that is free. So yeah, I think this is the problem.
When I get my RAM in the mail, I'll try going plug-in crazy and see what happens. And then I'll post back here with the results for anyone that may be reading this in the future.
But thanks for letting me know about Activity Monitor. I learn something new about my mac everyday. God bless.
-Ryan

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Greetings all,
So I just purchased a new Mac Pro 2.66 and Logic Pro 7 to run with it. I have been a long time Nuendo/Cubase user on the PC side of things but since I got the Mac I wanted a DAW that was supported fully for the apple platform.
Anyways, its a world of difference and I am very confused as I wrap my head around the learning curve, so in the meantime I have one important question maybe some one could help me with.
The question is regarding Aux channel stips for Multi channel instruments. In this scenario I am working with Battery 3, it took me a while to understand that I actually needed to create these aux channels just to have seperate outs in Battery which seems really wierd and overly time consuming.
As an example in Nuendo once you create the instance of Battery, the audio mixer automatically just creates the corresponding stereo and mono channels instantly. This obviously makes is a sinch to assign Batteries pads to seperate outs for eq/comps for seperate sounds.
Now the Battery manual doesnt even make a reference to Aux channels for assigning outs in Logic, I actually had to do a Google search to figure this out.
Anways, sorry for rambling...
Here is the main issue.... How can I quickly and easily create multiple Aux's? In the mixer there is really only enough room in there to add like 1 more Aux strip, if I want to add more than that I need to re-arrange the entire global mixer which seems like a crazy system, surely there must be a more convenient method for getting muti-channel audio instruments set up quicker.
Any help you can assist with would be exceptional!
Thanks in advance.

Not sure what exactly your question is, especially since I don't use battery. But as far as creating aux tracks:
• go to the audio layer of the environment (not the track mixer window), find the two defalt aux tracks
• Highlight all tracks to the right of the aux tracks (these should be bus and output tracks), and drag to the right far enough to fit in a bunch of aux tracks; you might even want to drag the all underneath the aux tracks, if your screen accomodates
• use the key command shift-command-a multiples times to create several new "audio objects", and double click each one to expand
• highlight all the new objects and select options/clean up/ align objects (makes it look nicer)
• still highlighted, over in the parameters section (left side) select a channel, setting it to the highest number aux (at this point, probably "aux 3")
• now individual set the channel for each aux track – you'll see that now you have available "aux 4"; next time you set a successive track you'll see "aux 5" and so on
• once you've got things set up the way you want, save it as a template so you don't have to do this again later

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I'm running...
Logic Pro v9.0.0
2Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac
2GB RAM
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I have no problem with latency in audio recording and never even get crashes when using Logic plug-ins or running a lot of tracks at once.
But when I use the Native Instruments plug-ins and start turning some knobs on their interface, Logic quits without warning.
This isn''t all the time. But it does happen frequently, especially when running multiple plug-in instruments.
I can still get work done if I hit save all the time but it is getting more frustrating as my song grows larger.
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I just ordered another GB of RAM. Do you think that will help at all?
What should I do? The KOMPLETE 5 instruments are too good to go without.
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I ran Activity Monitor while opening a few projects in Logic. And it seems that I only have about 560MB of RAM left to play with once the song loads. Before I open Logic I have about 1.5GB of RAM that is free. So yeah, I think this is the problem.
When I get my RAM in the mail, I'll try going plug-in crazy and see what happens. And then I'll post back here with the results for anyone that may be reading this in the future.
But thanks for letting me know about Activity Monitor. I learn something new about my mac everyday. God bless.
-Ryan

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I recently purchased the Miroslav Philharmonik sound library and am learning to use it. You can assign different instruments and sounds in up to 16 different channels within the plug-in. I've quickly learned that this is a very important feature to use in order to have, for example, all the different violin articulations (e.g. legato, staccato, pizzicato, detache, etc.) at your disposal at once and within one instance of the plug-in. The only problem is, I'm not really sure how to manage changing MIDI channels within the arrange window.
Let's say I have the 4 previously mentioned violin sounds loaded into Channels 1-4 in the Miroslav plug-in, which I have inserted into the Channel Strip for Inst 1. Let's say I play four bars of legato, then want to switch to staccato for four bars. How do I do this? I know I can switch the MIDI Channel from 1 to 2 in the channel strip info window, but is this automatable for play-back? I have just a basic M-Audio MIDI keyboard with pitch bend, mod wheel, octave +/-, advanced functions button, and volume. I've never worked with a multi-channel plugin before and would love any and all suggestions on how best to use this feature! Thanks!
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I think logic is missing your Auto-mapped synths all of a sudden.
It happened to me with Predator just now.
After Automap was updated to 3.5 I got the same message.
Rescan with the Automap Plugin manager without Logic running and see if the plugins are available.
Tick the boxes of all the synths Logic expects to see auto-mapped, press OK, close Automap Server and restart logic.
Now Logic and Automap Server are started in order.
If the plugins are not available you can also try to move the AU components that are mentioned to another location on the drive.
Start logic, on your Channel Strip the names of the synths will be crossed out because you moved them.
Close Logic and Automap Server, move the AU components back to their original location and restart logic.
If I am correct they should be rescanned.
After this, scan with the Automap Plugin manager.
Check the boxes and tick the boxes of the plugins Logic expects to see Auto-mapped and restart logic again.
It is a lot of restarting I know, but the goal is to flip that bit in the software that is giving all this hassle.
I hope this works for you, It worked for me on logic 8.

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I installed the AU file, which is sitting in the library/audio/plug-ins folder. I've also used Logic's AU finder to scan my drives for it, but Logic never finds it.
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But now when I start Logic is doesn't recognize ANY third party plug-ins. Any project that had any of the plug-ins now shows the plug-in with a slash through it. Does mean I have to RE-upload EVERY third party plug-in including all the samples? Or are the samples accessible but I just have to set up the password again? I'm pretty basic at this setting up process. So any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello -
My set-up is noted below. Please note that my audio device for my main computer (the Mac Pro) is the _Motu 2408 MK3_.
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I own many instrumental plug-ins for the MacPro (and the slave computers). Most of the instrumental plug-ins in this computer (and the others) are "powered" by Native-Instrument's Kontakt 2 Player or the full version of Kontakt 2.
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If yes, then. . .
2) HOW do I configure the MOTU 2408 MK3 device and/or configure Logic so that the audio signals can be monitored? (And so that I can add EQ and audio effects, etc.??)
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First, noequplease, THANK YOU very much for taking the time to answer my question. I sincerely appreciate the time and effort that you shared!!!
I need to clarify myself, I guess. These are not "external" synths in the literal sense. Everything is "internal" within the same computer (the MacPro) as the Logic Pro program. These are instrumental plug-ins like the *Kontakt 2 Player* or the *Kontakt 2* (full version). What I've learned how to do is connect to these instrumental software plug-ins external from the Logic Pro program via the IAC Driver. So, it's all "internal" within the computer, just "external" from Logic. (If that makes sense.)
The reason I'm attempting to connect Logic this way is so that I can use more of the 8 GBs of RAM found within my MacPro. So, in other words, I would use the Kontakt 2 Player as an instrumental plug-in within the Logic Pro program and ALSO connect Logic Pro to the "external" *Kontakt 2 Player* (the _stand alone_ plug-in version) via the IAC Driver.
I can communicate with the stand alone version(s) of Kontakt via the IAC driver. Sound is coming out. However, I have yet to figure out a way route the audio signals from the stand alone plug-in to inside Logic.
I suspect that your suggestion of using an external mixer might be the answer (despite using computer-based instrumental plug-ins). I don't think that there's a way of routing the audio signal from a stand alone plug-in to Logic without the use of some kind of mixer. I most probably will need a digital mixer to take advantage of the 2408 MK3's ADAT digital signals to route the signals back into the MacPro. Sadly, I can't afford a digital mixer at this time.
I don't know. . . .
BUT, like I said in my original post, my CURRENT set-up using the "slave" computers works just fine. I'm just trying to figure out a way to make use of all of my MacPro's 8 GBs of RAM. UGH.
Any ideas??

Logic Studio , Lion and a lot of 3d party plug-ins and apps....

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Apple released Lion but I find the information concerning the tandem Lion-Logic very sparse...
To install Lion or not using LogicPro,that is the question...I use a lot of 3dparty plug-ins but somebody told me that with Lion-Logic Pro you can only use 64bit plug-ins....
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Club Filth
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Try using the information in the following article to help you troubleshoot this Logic issue:
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5859
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Hello guys,
yes I know....60 mouse klicks, done
Is there something I missed? Does logic have a "mute all plug-ins" or "mute all plug-ins except software synths" function??
I think it really shouldn't be a big problem to implement something like that (some daws have that feature).
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Eddie,
As far as I know, this isn't available in Logic.
As a workaround, I would do this... save the song as "Song Title-no plugins".
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Obviously, saving as a separate song eliminates the possibility of saving your original song without the plug-in loaded.
Logic 7 at least had "remove ALL plug-ins" from the Audio Configuration window. Although this is almost as quick.
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Note: if you created any custom key commands for logic, do not trash your old preferences, as you can import your key commands from this file. Check your manual under import key commands. Here is a link to the PDF of the manual, which is easier to search:http://www.apple.com/support/logic/
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