Logic 8 won't open in 10.8.5

I've just acquired a new Mac Book Pro (Retina Quad 2.6 i7 w 8GB of RAM). Installed my already-owned version of Logic Studio (w Logic Pro 8) using Pacifist, by:
- creating Disk Images of installer DVD and 3 Audio Content DVDs (Disk Utility failed to create DMGs of Jam Pack DVDs)
- opening Pacifist, selecting main .mpkg and clicking the install button
- watching while Pacifist extracted files, inserting Jam Pack DVDs when asked
At no point was I asked where I wanted to save any content, nor was I asked for serial no. Slightly surprising.
Have had a quick look for files and many seem to be there. Logic, Mainstage, Node, and Waveburner are in the applications folder. There's a folder at Library/Application Support/Logic but it's empty. When I do a spotlight search there's loads of content files everywhere, I assume in the right places...
Anyway, when I click the Logic app icon it starts to launch, but I almost immediately get a "Logic Pro quit unexpectedly" message. Waveburner asked me for a serial number and name (which I entered), then did the same thing. Mainstage crashed on the "enter your details" popup.
Any ideas? I'm assuming it's either that Pacifist didn't install it correctly, or else there's some oustanding incompatibility issue I can't find.
In case it's relevant I've tried it with and without my iLok 1 inserted. Same result either way.
Here's hoping you can help...

Bizarre. I'm not aware of any feature of Logic Pro 7 that isn't compatible with Logic Pro 8. You're not trying to open a Logic Pro 7 Song in Logic Express, are you?
Amazingly, there aren't any free downloads of commercial software still in regular use…
However, if it's any consolation, if the problem isn't as described above (Pro > Express), then it is more likely to be an update/maintenance problem than a Logic issue. I would suggest you make sure everything in your system is up to date, permissions are repaired, normal system maintenance has taken place… all the usual stuff. I use MacJanitor to take care of the latter, but there are alternatives.

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    0x98d21000 - 0x98d5bff7  libcups.2.dylib 2.8.0 (compatibility 2.0.0) <6875335E-0993-0D77-4E80-41763A8477CF> /usr/lib/libcups.2.dylib
    0x98d6f000 - 0x98d83fe7  libbsm.0.dylib ??? (???) <14CB053A-7C47-96DA-E415-0906BA1B78C9> /usr/lib/libbsm.0.dylib
    0x98d89000 - 0x98f30ff7  libSystem.B.dylib 125.2.11 (compatibility 1.0.0) <2DCD13E3-1BD1-6F25-119A-3863A3848B90> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
    0x98f38000 - 0x98fb2fff  com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 3.2.6 (3.2.6) <156A532C-0B60-55B0-EE27-D02B82AA6217> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudio.framework/Versions/A/CoreAudio
    0x98fb3000 - 0x98fc0ff7  com.apple.NetFS 3.2.2 (3.2.2) <DDC9C397-C35F-8D7A-BB24-3D1B42FA5FAB> /System/Library/Frameworks/NetFS.framework/Versions/A/NetFS
    0x98fc1000 - 0x98fcbfe7  com.apple.audio.SoundManager 3.9.3 (3.9.3) <5F494955-7290-2D91-DA94-44B590191771> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonSound.f ramework/Versions/A/CarbonSound
    0x98fcc000 - 0x98fcfffb  com.apple.help 1.3.2 (41.1) <8AC20B01-4A3B-94BA-D8AF-E39034B97D8C> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framewor k/Versions/A/Help
    0x98fd8000 - 0x9915afe7  libicucore.A.dylib 40.0.0 (compatibility 1.0.0) <D5980817-6D19-9636-51C3-E82BAE26776B> /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib
    0x991a1000 - 0x992a3fef  com.apple.MeshKitIO 1.1 (49.2) <D0401AC5-1F92-2BBB-EBAB-58EDD3BA61B9> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MeshKit.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/MeshK itIO.framework/Versions/A/MeshKitIO
    0x992a4000 - 0x993e1fe7  com.apple.audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 1.6.7 (1.6.7) <423BDE4D-5082-B6CA-BB2C-E22A037235A4> /System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/Versions/A/AudioToolbox
    0x993e2000 - 0x993edff7  libCSync.A.dylib 545.0.0 (compatibility 64.0.0) <287DECA3-7821-32B6-724D-AE03A9A350F9> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libCSync.A.dylib
    0x993ee000 - 0x99486fe7  edu.mit.Kerberos 6.5.11 (6.5.11) <F36DB665-A88B-7F5B-6244-6A2E7FFFF668> /System/Library/Frameworks/Kerberos.framework/Versions/A/Kerberos
    0x99487000 - 0x99587fe7  libxml2.2.dylib 10.3.0 (compatibility 10.0.0) <BE7FCD73-03B5-25A4-FCA4-D4980F1488D6> /usr/lib/libxml2.2.dylib
    0x99588000 - 0x995afff7  com.apple.quartzfilters 1.6.0 (1.6.0) <879A3B93-87A6-88FE-305D-DF1EAED04756> /System/Library/Frameworks/Quartz.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QuartzFilters .framework/Versions/A/QuartzFilters
    0x995b0000 - 0x995f2ff7  libvDSP.dylib 268.0.1 (compatibility 1.0.0) <8A4721DE-25C4-C8AA-EA90-9DA7812E3EBA> /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.fr amework/Versions/A/libvDSP.dylib
    0x996aa000 - 0x9978afe7  com.apple.vImage 4.1 (4.1) <D029C515-08E1-93A6-3705-DD062A3A672C> /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vImage.fr amework/Versions/A/vImage
    0x997d9000 - 0x997dbff7  libRadiance.dylib ??? (???) <98EC06D5-1A02-EDEF-BF9D-2C986761AD54> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libRadiance.dylib
    0x997dc000 - 0x9984aff7  com.apple.QuickLookUIFramework 2.3 (327.6) <74706A08-5399-24FE-00B2-4A702A6B83C1> /System/Library/Frameworks/Quartz.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QuickLookUI.f ramework/Versions/A/QuickLookUI
    0x9984b000 - 0x99891ff7  libauto.dylib ??? (???) <29422A70-87CF-10E2-CE59-FEE1234CFAAE> /usr/lib/libauto.dylib
    0x999ce000 - 0x99a0cff7  com.apple.QuickLookF

    tried looking for the folders you mentioned - couldn't find any ReWire folders, and moved everything connected to Melodyne to the trash and still no luck . here's how the error message reads:
    Process:    
    Logic Pro [325]
    Path:       
    /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro
    Identifier: 
    com.apple.logic.pro
    Version:    
    9.1.7 (1700.57)
    Build Info: 
    Logic-17005700~1
    Code Type:  
    X86 (Native)
    Parent Process:  launchd [150]
    Date/Time:  
    2012-08-14 22:49:52.783 +0100
    OS Version: 
    Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)
    Report Version:  6
    Interval Since Last Report:     
    402924 sec
    Crashes Since Last Report:      
    4
    Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  38 sec
    Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   2
    Anonymous UUID:                 
    8368D8D8-434C-4589-BA0E-2A3D368AA022
    Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
    Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
    Crashed Thread:  13
    Thread 0:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
    0   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98e0008a sem_wait$NOCANCEL$UNIX2003 + 10
    1   ...lodyneEssentialRewireDevice
    0x414a51b4 GNCondition::waitForSignal() + 32
    2   ...lodyneEssentialRewireDevice
    0x414a4d4f GNMessagePort::registerMessagePortWithName(GNString*, GNData* (*)(GNMessagePort*, GNData*), int, int, GNDictionary*) + 315
    3   ...lodyneEssentialRewireDevice
    0x41446dbe GNReWire2AudioDeviceHost::create() + 172
    4   ...lodyneEssentialRewireDevice
    0x41444f3f RWDEFOpenDevice + 89
    5   ...opellerheads.rewire.library
    0x413c984e 0x413c5000 + 18510
    6   ...opellerheads.rewire.library
    0x413c99b8 0x413c5000 + 18872
    7   ...opellerheads.rewire.library
    0x413cc8e0 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 5438
    8   ...opellerheads.rewire.library
    0x413ca689 RWM2OpenDeviceImp + 57
    9   ...le.music.apps.MAAudioEngine
    0x02b24caa ReWireUpdateMIDIInfos() + 3226
    10  ...le.music.apps.MAAudioEngine
    0x02b0c3bb MD::Init(int, bool) + 2555
    11  ...le.music.apps.MAAudioEngine
    0x02b16ae2 GetCurrentCoreAudioDeviceNameFromUserDefaults(signed char) + 11954
    12  com.apple.logic.pro      
    0x000b6eeb std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 504955
    13  com.apple.logic.pro      
    0x000b9a41 std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 516049
    14  com.apple.logic.pro      
    0x003e5b15 std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 3842213
    15  com.apple.logic.pro      
    0x001c567e std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 1612814
    16  com.apple.logic.pro      
    0x001c9c8c std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 1630748
    17  com.apple.logic.pro      
    0x00619983 std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 6151955
    18  com.apple.Foundation     
    0x9192edb3 _nsnote_callback + 176
    19  com.apple.CoreFoundation 
    0x94b3f763 __CFXNotificationPost + 947
    20  com.apple.CoreFoundation 
    0x94b3f16a _CFXNotificationPostNotification + 186
    21  com.apple.Foundation     
    0x91923c50 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] + 128
    22  com.apple.Foundation     
    0x9193105d -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:] + 56
    23  com.apple.AppKit         
    0x96ffb216 -[NSApplication _postDidFinishNotification] + 125
    24  com.apple.AppKit         
    0x96ffb126 -[NSApplication _sendFinishLaunchingNotification] + 74
    25  com.apple.AppKit         
    0x97152339 -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleAEOpen:] + 274
    26  com.apple.AppKit         
    0x97151f59 -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent:] + 101
    27  com.apple.Foundation     
    0x919641f8 -[NSAppleEventManager dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon:] + 511
    28  com.apple.Foundation     
    0x91963fbc _NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler + 228
    29  com.apple.AE             
    0x918e8f5c aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) + 166
    30  com.apple.AE             
    0x918e8e5b dispatchEventAndSendReply(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*) + 43
    31  com.apple.AE             
    0x918e8d65 aeProcessAppleEvent + 197
    32  com.apple.HIToolbox      
    0x93456197 AEProcessAppleEvent + 50
    33  com.apple.AppKit         
    0x96fcb7d2 _DPSNextEvent + 1420
    34  com.apple.AppKit         
    0x96fcadd6 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 156
    35  com.apple.AppKit         
    0x96f8d1f3 -[NSApplication run] + 821
    36  com.apple.prokit         
    0x00fc63f6 NSProApplicationMain + 326
    37  com.apple.logic.pro      
    0x0002b1c5 DummyConnection::DummyConnection() + 193
    Thread 1:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
    0   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db0382 kevent + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db0a9c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215
    2   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98daff59 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163
    3   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98dafcfe _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240
    4   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98daf781 _pthread_wqthread + 390
    5   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98daf5c6 start_wqthread + 30
    Thread 2:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98daf412 __workq_kernreturn + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98daf9a8 _pthread_wqthread + 941
    2   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98daf5c6 start_wqthread + 30
    Thread 3:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98d89afa mach_msg_trap + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98d8a267 mach_msg + 68
    2   com.apple.CoreFoundation 
    0x94b212df __CFRunLoopRun + 2079
    3   com.apple.CoreFoundation 
    0x94b203c4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452
    4   com.apple.CoreFoundation 
    0x94b201f1 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 97
    5   com.apple.Foundation     
    0x91968224 +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionReallyInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 329
    6   com.apple.Foundation     
    0x9192f4c4 -[NSThread main] + 45
    7   com.apple.Foundation     
    0x9192f474 __NSThread__main__ + 1499
    8   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db7259 _pthread_start + 345
    9   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db70de thread_start + 34
    Thread 4:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98d89b42 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db76f8 _pthread_cond_wait + 1089
    2   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98e0005f pthread_cond_wait + 48
    3   com.apogee.ONEPlugIn     
    0x03fa084a apogeeDriverPlugInMessageQueue::WaitForNextMessageInList() + 62
    4   com.apogee.ONEPlugIn     
    0x03fa0ef7 ClientBiDirConnection::HandlePropertyChanges() + 27
    5   com.apogee.ONEPlugIn     
    0x03fa0f41 PthreadHandlingPropertyChanges(void*) + 21
    6   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db7259 _pthread_start + 345
    7   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db70de thread_start + 34
    Thread 5:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98d89b42 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db76f8 _pthread_cond_wait + 1089
    2   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98e0005f pthread_cond_wait + 48
    3   com.apogee.ONEPlugIn     
    0x03fa02c6 MessageTX::TXThread() + 76
    4   com.apogee.ONEPlugIn     
    0x03fa0583 TransmitThread(void*) + 21
    5   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db7259 _pthread_start + 345
    6   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db70de thread_start + 34
    Thread 6:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98dc4a5a recvfrom$NOCANCEL$UNIX2003 + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98e2e8bd recv + 54
    2   com.apogee.ONEPlugIn     
    0x03fa1329 ClientBiDirLocalSocketConnection::ReceiveData(void*, int) + 83
    3   com.apogee.ONEPlugIn     
    0x03f9f7d6 MessageRX::RXThread() + 136
    4   com.apogee.ONEPlugIn     
    0x03f9fc77 ReceiveThread(void*) + 21
    5   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db7259 _pthread_start + 345
    6   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db70de thread_start + 34
    Thread 7:  com.apple.CFSocket.private
    0   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98da8ac6 select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
    1   com.apple.CoreFoundation 
    0x94b60c53 __CFSocketManager + 1091
    2   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db7259 _pthread_start + 345
    3   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db70de thread_start + 34
    Thread 8:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98d89afa mach_msg_trap + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98d8a267 mach_msg + 68
    2   com.apple.CoreFoundation 
    0x94b212df __CFRunLoopRun + 2079
    3   com.apple.CoreFoundation 
    0x94b203c4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452
    4   com.apple.CoreFoundation 
    0x94b26304 CFRunLoopRun + 84
    5   com.apple.DVCPROHDMuxer  
    0x3a661507 AVS::DestroyAVCDeviceController(AVS::AVCDeviceController*) + 285
    6   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db7259 _pthread_start + 345
    7   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db70de thread_start + 34
    Thread 9:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db7aa2 __semwait_signal + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db775e _pthread_cond_wait + 1191
    2   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db93f8 pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
    3   com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 
    0x02a45838 ResolveFile + 54808
    4   com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 
    0x02a45901 ResolveFile + 55009
    5   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db7259 _pthread_start + 345
    6   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db70de thread_start + 34
    Thread 10:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db7aa2 __semwait_signal + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db775e _pthread_cond_wait + 1191
    2   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db93f8 pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
    3   com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 
    0x02a45838 ResolveFile + 54808
    4   com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 
    0x02a45901 ResolveFile + 55009
    5   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db7259 _pthread_start + 345
    6   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db70de thread_start + 34
    Thread 11:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98d89b5a semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
    1   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db76e1 _pthread_cond_wait + 1066
    2   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98de65a8 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
    3   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio
    0x98f583ab CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 219
    4   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio
    0x98f5b3dd CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 289
    5   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio
    0x98f58cda HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 1892
    6   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio
    0x98f58571 HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 17
    7   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio
    0x98f58488 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 140
    8   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db7259 _pthread_start + 345
    9   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db70de thread_start + 34
    Thread 12:
    0   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98d89c0e mach_wait_until + 10
    1   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore
    0x9a0d27f0 MPDelayUntil + 43
    2   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore
    0x9a0e2226 Delay + 107
    3   ...opellerheads.rewire.library
    0x413d07e8 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 21574
    4   ...opellerheads.rewire.library
    0x413eba5c RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 132794
    5   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db7259 _pthread_start + 345
    6   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db70de thread_start + 34
    Thread 13 Crashed:
    0   ???                      
    0000000000 0 + 0
    1   ...lodyneEssentialRewireDevice
    0x414868ea GNThreadHandler(void*) + 94
    2   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db7259 _pthread_start + 345
    3   libSystem.B.dylib        
    0x98db70de thread_start + 34
    Thread 13 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
      eax: 0x3cc646b0  ebx: 0x414a4988  ecx: 0x3cc64634  edx: 0x3cc644f0
      edi: 0x3cc64630  esi: 0xb06aa000  ebp: 0xb06a9f48  esp: 0xb06a9f1c
       ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0x00010206  eip: 0x00000000   cs: 0x00000017
       ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0x0000001f   gs: 0x00000037
      cr2: 0x00000000
    Binary Images:
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      0xe81000 -   0xe9ffef  com.apple.XSKey 1.0.0 (52) <71B94F53-15DB-9012-91F2-211F7C2CD790> /Library/Frameworks/XSKey.framework/Versions/A/XSKey
      0xeae000 -   0xee1fe7  com.apple.music.apps.MAAudioUnitSupport 9.1.7 (233.39) <13FB1823-E7E6-A34B-6D89-E30D01605DC1> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/MAAudioUnitSupport.framework/Versions/A/MAAudioUnit Support
      0xeee000 -   0xf1fff3  com.apple.musicaudiodataservices 1.1 (250.92) <11E60B69-F34E-72B0-DC8E-BC23B4D9D949> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/MAAssetSharing.framework/Versions/A/MAAssetSharing
      0xf2e000 -   0xf8cff3  com.apple.music.apps.MALoopManagement 9.1.7 (218.94) <E1772A24-827D-AF1F-7C09-E25FC729F95B> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/MALoopManagement.framework/Versions/A/MALoopManagem ent
      0xfa2000 -  0x11dafff  com.apple.prokit 7.0.1 (1331.1) <327AFA15-E955-02EF-3E57-E2558B645698> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ProKit.framework/Versions/A/ProKit
    0x12e2000 -  0x135dfff  com.apple.music.apps.MACore 9.1.7 (477.48) <5D0BB5DF-13EB-1759-F1B9-4275EEE287B3> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/MACore.framework/Versions/A/MACore
    0x137d000 -  0x13c9ffb  com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 1.7.1 (42) <FB4D4B64-6ABB-679E-3AA8-21DE9062B4C1> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreMIDI.framework/Versions/A/CoreMIDI
    0x13ee000 -  0x1444ff7  com.apple.music.apps.MAHarmony 9.1.7 (198.94) <BE3356F3-9B77-81AF-9D4E-2F9F036B7491> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/MAHarmony.framework/Versions/A/MAHarmony
    0x145b000 -  0x1874ff7  com.apple.music.apps.MAPlugInGUI 9.1.7 (424.69) <6C2FD01C-3CAA-F456-B695-FCB5638A4EDE> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/MAPlugInGUI.framework/Versions/A/MAPlugInGUI
    0x1a92000 -  0x1b74feb  com.apple.music.apps.OMF 9.1.7 (108.93) <5A2D5ABF-97B8-E67D-EF60-BD3CEA462CDE> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/OMF.framework/Versions/A/OMF
    0x1b88000 -  0x21d9fe3  com.apple.music.apps.MADSP 9.1.7 (588.88) <4E4B1FA7-6D09-E835-09B8-FC5700B6D425> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/MADSP.framework/Versions/A/MADSP
    0x28be000 -  0x28dfff7  com.apple.music.apps.LogicFileBrowser 9.1.7 (1700.57) <EEAE4BD4-7F0C-3331-2C94-6EBA3E5F518F> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/LogicFileBrowser.framework/Versions/A/LogicFileBrow ser
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    Version: 7.1.0 (7.1.0(877))
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    2 com.apple.AppKit 0x9360eacc -[NSView release] + 200
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    11 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93126324 AEProcessAppleEvent + 60
    12 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9316a184 ProcessHighLevelEvent + 140
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