Logic 9.1.6 scrolling causes CPU overload

Since I've upgraded to Lion and 9.1.6, everytime I use my Mighty mouse to scroll, the CPU meter goes to full, no matter what I'm doing. I'm on a Nehalem 2x2.26 with 12gb of RAM, and Logic has been rock solid until this.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
- Kent Hooper

Pancenter - thanks so much for the reply.
That would be such a huge undertaking, but could do if I had to. It would be a good excuse to put an SSD in there for the system boot drive.
If anyone else has seen this personally, I'd be very grateful to hear your experience....
- kent

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