Logic 9 arrange window is missing

Can't seem to get the arrange window to show after upgrading to 9.1.5 on Lion. I know about screensets and the APPLE + 1 command. All of the other windows come up when using the toolbar just no arrange window. Reinstall?

It seems that I have to reinstall the update nearly every time I want to run Logic. There has to be a better solution.

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Moving Around Arrange Window

Sorry everyone for not posting a more specific subject diliniation, but I simply don't know what the name even of this item is. Here's a picture of it:
It's the little cross hair tool at the bottom left of the Arrange window. It allows you to navigate in and around your Arrange window (among, of course, all the OTHER manners that you can navigate in and around the Arrange window). It is similar to (if not the equivalent of) the "hand/H" function in FCP, which allows you to smoothly move your timeline to a particular location. Here's my question though:
Can you get this little . . . thingymabob (somebody please tell me the name of it) to FLOAT so that you don't have to always go to the bottom left of the Arrange Window in order to access it? Or is there simply a key command that turns your curser into the tool and you can use it that way?
I'm looking to be able to do in Logic's Arrange window something similar to what you can do when you're in, say, the Preview application and you use the "move" tool (which is the hand tool) which allows you to hold click the mouse on the page and just move it around to the specific or desired area of the page.
Thank you all in advance,
Javier Calderon

Manual, p24:
"The X/Y scroll element is situated at the bottom left corner of the window. By grabbing and dragging it, you can move the horizontal and vertical window section, as if you were dragging both scroll bars simultaneously. When the cursor hovers over the X/Y scroll element, a crosshair icon with four arrowheads is displayed.
You can also engage the X/Y scroll feature by holding down a third button (the mouse wheel button, for example), and moving the mouse. The distance of the mouse pointer position from the initial clicked position determines the scrolling speed.
Note: Touching the background of the Arrange Window while holding Shift-Control also allows you to scroll the window both horizontally and vertically."

Stereo Fader Missing in LPX Arrange Window

I've imported a project from LP9 and noticed that there is no Stereo output fader in the arrange window in LPX, it was there in LP9..
So I create a "new" audio track and LPX generated Ch 81 (my mixer has 80 channels). I selected "reassign track" to "Output Stereo -->Output 1-2" but I needed to toggle the automation button to see the automation already on that track (from my LP9 session).
When I go to the environment to delete the redundant Ch 81, the Stereo output fader / track in the arrange window disappears again.
I repeat the process, and this time I leave Ch 81 intact and save the session. When I reload the session, the stereo output fader is GONE. The automation still works but I cannot edit or see it...
Why does Logic X not display the output fader assigned in the mixer?

I've imported a project from LP9 and noticed that there is no Stereo output fader in the arrange window in LPX, it was there in LP9..
So I create a "new" audio track and LPX generated Ch 81 (my mixer has 80 channels). I selected "reassign track" to "Output Stereo -->Output 1-2" but I needed to toggle the automation button to see the automation already on that track (from my LP9 session).
When I go to the environment to delete the redundant Ch 81, the Stereo output fader / track in the arrange window disappears again.
I repeat the process, and this time I leave Ch 81 intact and save the session. When I reload the session, the stereo output fader is GONE. The automation still works but I cannot edit or see it...
Why does Logic X not display the output fader assigned in the mixer?

Where is the button to transfer sequences to the arrange window in Logic Pro 7's Ultrabeat?

Hi guys/gals,
I have a pretty old version of Logic, it's Pro 7. Anyway, I mess around with it from time to time and I am currently trying to program some drums using Ultrabeat, which, to be honest, I have totally ignored in the past.
I have created a sequence and I now want to place it into the arrange window, but cannot find the button which, from everywhere I have searched, should be in the bottom left of the plug in, near the pattern selector drop down. I have taken a screenshot of how my Ultrabeat looks. If you can find this mysterious button then please let me know, as it is driving me nuts! I simply cannot find it anywhere.
Thanks for your time.
Archimbaldi.

Hi
This function was added in Logic Pro 7.2
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/New_Features_in_Logic_Pro_7.2.pdf
page 98
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Logic Control button to engage follow in arrange window.

Hello
Is there a way to engage the follow function in the arrange window off of a logic control unit?
Regards
Krzysztof

Hi,
In the Control Surface setup window of preferences you can check a box that allows, or causes, Logic's arrange screen to follow the control surface view. I think this makes more sense than the other way around since the whole point of the LC unit is to have your hands on it rather than the mouse. Hope this helps.
RW

Logic crashes at arrange window, need help!!

Hey all, hoping someone has experience with this problem or can make some sense of the report log. Here's the issue:
Logic crashes after going through all of splash screen and getting to arrange window.
I trashed pref files, rebooted
After that didn't work I re-installed old version of Logic over new one, rebooted
I'm still having the problem. A few things worth mentioning:
I was having problems with my bluetooth mouse and keyboard so I had trashed the bluetooth, power managment, and network prefs along with doing several p-ram and nv-ram resets. It was the first time after doing all of this that logic would crash at arrange window.
After Logic crashed a few times I tried to open Reason only to have it ask me for the installation CDs and serial again. That problem is taken care of but I thought it might be more than a coincidence.
Here's the crash report, let me know if a console report or something else would help more:
Date/Time: 2007-02-20 20:25:42.311 -0500
OS Version: 10.4.8 (Build 8L127)
Report Version: 4
Command: Logic Pro
Path: /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro
Parent: WindowServer [61]
Version: 7.1.0 (7.1.0(877))
Build Version: 1A73
Project Name: LogicPro710_ApplicationData
Source Version: 900001
PID: 242
Thread: 0
Exception: EXCBADACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERNPROTECTIONFAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000006
Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907bcdb8 CFRelease + 92
1 com.apple.logic.pro 0x003875fc 0x1000 + 3696124
2 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0038773c 0x1000 + 3696444
3 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0011ffa0 0x1000 + 1175456
4 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0011ffe4 0x1000 + 1175524
5 com.apple.logic.pro 0x00120448 0x1000 + 1176648
6 com.apple.logic.pro 0x002f4714 0x1000 + 3094292
7 com.apple.logic.pro 0x002f3ed0 0x1000 + 3092176
8 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907f0550 __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 184
9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907dcec8 __CFRunLoopRun + 1680
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907dc47c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 268
11 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93208740 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 264
12 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93207dd4 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 380
13 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9324cee4 AcquireNextEventInMode + 72
14 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9324ccd4 RunApplicationEventLoop + 132
15 com.apple.logic.pro 0x002f46b4 0x1000 + 3094196
16 com.apple.logic.pro 0x00121dd4 0x1000 + 1183188
17 com.apple.logic.pro 0x00005a08 0x1000 + 18952
18 com.apple.logic.pro 0x00005838 0x1000 + 18488
Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000ab48 machmsgtrap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000aa9c mach_msg + 60
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907dcb78 __CFRunLoopRun + 832
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907dc47c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 268
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907eb8dc CFRunLoopRun + 52
5 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0038d2f8 0x1000 + 3719928
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 pthreadbody + 96
Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000ab48 machmsgtrap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000aa9c mach_msg + 60
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907dcb78 __CFRunLoopRun + 832
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907dc47c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 268
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907eb8dc CFRunLoopRun + 52
5 com.apple.DVCPROHDMuxer 0x083641ac AVS::DestroyAVCDeviceController(AVS::AVCDeviceController*) + 404
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 pthreadbody + 96
Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000ab48 machmsgtrap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000aa9c mach_msg + 60
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907dcb78 __CFRunLoopRun + 832
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907dc47c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 268
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9145563c HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 264
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914553dc CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 pthreadbody + 96
Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90040978 machwaituntil + 8
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bf9f18 MPDelayUntil + 60
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bf9d60 Delay + 124
3 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x0cc3f4b0 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 3096
4 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x0cc77a08 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 233840
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 pthreadbody + 96
Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90054ae8 semaphoretimedwait_signaltrap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90071168 pthreadcond_timedwait_relativenp + 556
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bf5500 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 176
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bfd49c TimerThread + 60
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 pthreadbody + 96
Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bcb8 semaphorewaittrap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900306d0 pthreadcondwait + 516
2 com.apple.logic.pro 0x00717db4 0x1000 + 7433652
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 pthreadbody + 96
Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000ab48 machmsgtrap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000aa9c mach_msg + 60
2 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x96b05ac8 XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 84
3 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x96af8c80 MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 64
4 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x96afcf44 XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 28
5 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x96b0687c CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 pthreadbody + 96
Thread 8:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90054ae8 semaphoretimedwait_signaltrap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90071168 pthreadcond_timedwait_relativenp + 556
2 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91466794 CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 204
3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914666a4 CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 304
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914648e8 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 852
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91464580 HPIOThread::ThreadEntry(HPIOThread*) + 16
6 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914553dc CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 pthreadbody + 96
Thread 0 crashed with PPC Thread State 64:
srr0: 0x00000000907bcdb8 srr1: 0x100000000200d930 vrsave: 0x0000000000000000
cr: 0x24028422 xer: 0x0000000000000000 lr: 0x00000000907bcd64 ctr: 0x00000000907bcd5c
r0: 0x00000000003875fc r1: 0x00000000bffff1b0 r2: 0x00000000a07bcd64 r3: 0x0000000000000000
r4: 0x0000000000000048 r5: 0x000000000000009c r6: 0xffffffffffffffff r7: 0x0000000000000e03
r8: 0x0000000000000000 r9: 0x0000000000000000 r10: 0x00000000907d4b08 r11: 0x0000000000d9666c
r12: 0x0000000000000000 r13: 0x0000000000000000 r14: 0x0000000000000001 r15: 0x0000000000000000
r16: 0x0000000000000000 r17: 0x0000000000000000 r18: 0x0000000000000000 r19: 0x0000000000000000
r20: 0x000000007fffffff r21: 0x00000000ffffffff r22: 0x0000000000000000 r23: 0x0000000001b09c30
r24: 0x0000000001b09b20 r25: 0x0000000000120364 r26: 0x0000000010684050 r27: 0x0000000000000001
r28: 0x0000000000000003 r29: 0x0000000000000000 r30: 0x0000000000000000 r31: 0x00000000907bcd64
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Hey sonther, thanks a ton for answering.
I didn't have Pro App Support installed. I took your link and installed it - No immediate change to the situation. I'm not sure exactly what the Pro App Support is though, do I need to update it or do anything more for it to correct any problems?
I installed 10.4.8 when the OSX updater suggested it as I didn't see any big complaints from Logic users at the time. I will try a re-install tonight to see if that helps.
As I said above, one of my attempted solutions was re-installing Logic over the updated 7.1.1. At the time I posted the error log I had not yet re-upgraded (though the problem did start and is now continuing with Logic at version 7.1.1).
Where I stand:
re-upgraded to 7.1.1
Installed pro app support per sonther
Will re-install 10.4.8 tonight and post log after I get home
Any other suggestions would be helpful and thanks again sonther for your two cents!
iMac G5 2.0GHz 17" Mac OS X (10.4.8) 2GB RAM

In Logic X, the mouse click wheel scroll is way too fast on the arrange window and the piano roll. Is there a way to adjust this?

In Logic X, the mouse click wheel scroll is way too fast on the arrange window and the piano roll. Is there a way to adjust this? This is the way I scrolled for MIDI editing on Logic 9

Hi cris2121, assuming you're using a mouse from apple, go to >System Preferences<
it's here where one can configure a mouse device.
Additionally you can also configure Scrubbing in Logic: "When in scrub mode, you can slowly move the playhead in the Tracks Window and the Audio (and optional MIDI) will be played back. The playback speed depends on how fast you move the Playhead in either direction."
Have a nice day!

When creating new track in stereo... track opens in mono in arrange window

Since upgrading to 8.0.2...weird things are happening to previously saved projects. Stereo tracks are opening up mono and affecting following track. When creating new tracks in stereo.... tracks open mono. I don't know if this is due to 8.0.2 but all these freaky things have happening since. Also, when previewing Apple Loops, I can only hear it on one side, but Loops sounds fine once dragged to arrange window. Is this common or is my computer haunted ? Should I call Ghost Busters ? HELP !!! lol

Hi there,
I'm having the same problem as well: creating new tracks results in a mono software instrument, not the usual stereo software instrument. BUT... "Universal Track Mode" is already checked in my Audio prefs. I unchecked & rechecked it, but to no avail... I'm still only getting mono software instruments.
Any other ideas? No changes have been made to my system, and I'm running the latest version of Logic Pro.
Kirby

Midi loops when imported into arrange window sound pretty lifeless - please help

Hi
I am currently using Logic pro 9 and when I play the orchestral midi loops in the loop window they sound really lush. When I drag them into the arrnage window they sound really dull. I think I have changed a master setting somewhere along the line but don't know how to restore it.
It doesn't happen with the audio loops
I am on Mac OS x 10.6.8
any suggestions welcome
Rhythmseeds

Sorry to say, this isn't a bug — it's a feature!
You've just described exactly how they're supposed to work.
+Green Apple Loops are known as Software Instrument Apple Loops (SIALs). They differ from the blue (audio) Apple Loops in that they also contain a MIDI region plus software instrument and effect settings.+
+When Software Instrument Apple Loops are placed on instrument tracks, the region shown in the Arrange area can be edited just like other MIDI regions, including individual note editing.+
+If dragged onto a blank instrument track (one with an empty channel strip), the corresponding instrument and effect(s) settings are automatically inserted.+
+You can also drag Software Instrument Apple Loops directly into a blank Arrange window (with no tracks), or to a blank area below existing tracks. An instrument track and corresponding channel strip are automatically created, and the Apple Loop is loaded (the instrument is inserted into the instrument channel, along with any effects, and the Apple Loop region is placed on the track).+
+When you place Software Instrument Apple Loops on audio tracks, they are imported as audio regions (and behave like blue Apple Loops). Processing load is reduced when green Apple Loops are added to audio tracks.+
+Note: Blue Apple Loops will not play if placed on instrument tracks.+

Cursor in arrange window won't move when track is playing

Hi,
Can anyone help with this problem I'm having with Logic? I've been away from making tracks for a few weeks and now that I'm trying to use logic again I'm finding that cursor is not moving when I play a track, both in a new session and in old sessions. I am able to move the cursor by double clicking on the bottom part of the ruler but it doesn't scroll as it should during play. Is this a bug and do I need to reinstall logic or did I inadvertently set something to the wrong setting?
thanks a lot for your help,
Mike
p.s. I am running logic 7.1 on an IMac G5

The function you probably want is called Catch. Check out:
Logic Pro > Preferences > Global
There's a tab there (called Catch) that allows you to turn Catch off and on - check out the manual for detailed comments on the three options available.
Also, on the Arrange Window there's a button in the top left corner - looks like a person walking. If that's grey, the Catch function is turned off. If blue, the Catch function will operate.
Pete

Mono files displayed as stereo in arrange window

Hi there everyone. This is my first post and thanks to all the help from all your other posts. here's my question:
I did a recording in ProTools of a Jazz Combo with a Decca Tree and three spot mics. Normally I just load the files from the ProTools "audiofiles" folder into Logic and all is great but on this session Logic is reading the center and right Decca tracks as stereo files. They are not stereo, but mono and Quicktime-Get Info: says they are mono as does clicking on them and selecting "Get Info". Why would they appear as stereo files? They are showing up in the Mixer window as mono channel strips and in the Arrange window and the Audio Window they are listed as stereo. When panning the three Decca tree tracks Left, Center and Right I get a totally mono signal according to the Helper Plugin inserted on the Master Out bus. The file names are also not being copied to the track names properly. Any help would be wonderful as I need to get this mix done ASAP.
Thanks:)
Powerbook 15" Mac OS X (10.4.10) 1.5 gig ram, Presonus Firebox
Powerbook 15" Mac OS X (10.4.10) 1.5 gig ram, Presonus Firebox

Once you have dragged the files into the arrange page, look at the channel strip for that track and make sure that the button at the button is toggled to mono. Each track in arrange can handle a stereo or mono file. The LED type thing which shows the level toggles between mono look ... and stereo look.

Is there a quick way to "fit all" in the arrange window?

Does LP8 have a quick way to fit everything in the arrange window from any magnification level? Something comparable to double-clicking on the magnifying glass in Pro Tools?
For instance, let's say you've made your tracks very tall by control-down-arrowing a bunch of times. Now you want to quickly go back to having every track header showing in the arrange window. At first I thought that the key command "control-option-z" (zoom to fit selection horizontally and vertically) would work if you command-a selected all regions first. That does work horizontally, but if I have a region at the bottom of my track headers, that command does not seem to work vertically. The region at the bottom is still out of view.
One thing I tried was going to the key commands dialogue box and assigning option-2 to "save as zoom 1" and option-3 as "recall zoom 1." But when I start with everything visible in the arrange window, then hit option-2 to save that zoom level, then use the magnifying glass a bunch of times to make everything big, then hit option-3, it does not take me back to the original zoom level that I "saved" as option-2.
If the only way to get back to square one is to start there, then control-option-marquee-select to magnify a few times, then control-option-click on the background the same number of times to get back to where you started, well, OK, I will live with that.
But I am thinking there must be an easy way to "fit everything in window" with just one click, or maybe some kind of key-modified click.
Any advice much appreciated,
Jim

OK, thanks for the advice, Erik. I was hoping not to have to use the zoom sliders or the stretch scrollbars method, since it's not as fast as a one-click or double-click method.
One other possibility I was investigating today was saving a screenshot and then recalling it. The manual says:
Saving and Recalling Screensets
Screensets are numbered from 1 to 99 (using only the 1 to 9 computer keys—the 0 key
is assigned to the Stop command by default).
You don’t need to save screensets with an explicit command. It happens automatically,
as soon as you switch to another screenset. Thus, without any effort, your current
working view is always stored as the current screenset.
To create a screenset:
1 Press a numerical key, say 7.
For two-digit screensets, hold down Control while entering the first digit.
2 Arrange your windows as desired, including changes to zoom settings, relationship of
the Arrange area and editor areas, open or closed Inspector and Media or Lists areas,
and so on.
To recall, or switch between screensets, do one of the following:
m Input the number of the desired screenset (1 to 9).
I thought that had real possibilities. Make the arrange window the size of my whole project to begin with, then save it as, say, screenset 3. Then if I zoom in on a wave form or change the size of everything, just recall screenset 3 to get back. Unfortunately, it apparently constantly keeps track of all your changes, so if you zoom within screenset 3 and then try to recall the screenset 3 that you saved, it just takes you to where you are currently, after all the zooming. I don't understand why Logic thinks that helps you, but that's how it seems to work.
Anyway, I've spent enough time on it. I give up. I guess I will use control-left-arrow, control-right-arrow. Unfortunately, you cannot do them both at the same time, it seems, which would be faster. Oh, well.

Audio and Midi Jumping/Swithching Tracks in Arrange Window

I've had an issue with audio and Midi information switching tracks in the arrange window. Granted, I'm new with Logic. But as I'm working in an audio Track (let's say track 3), I happen to undo a record pass or delete something, and the next thing I know, all the tracks have jumped up one -- so the Midi drums in track 10 are in nine, playing the piano insert. The Midi Piano is up in 8 doing nothing (because track 8 is an audio track), etc. etc. etc. Very annoying -- even when the tracks are frozen.
Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks

I've had this happen in the past.
What version of Logic are you working on?

How to Collapse Tracks in Arrange Window?

I've been searching this and some other forums, and have a feeling I'm outta luck, but figured I should post a question here before writing up another Feature Request...
Separate from the Hide Track function (which isn't quite what I'm wanting), and separate from creating region-based Folders (which I've only just begun to explore), is there no way to simply designate groups of Tracks in the Arrange window, and then be able to collapse or reveal that particular group with a single click -- in the same way that a folder's contents can be collapsed or revealed in Finder list view?
I'm currently building a Logic project which draws on bits and pieces from 3-4 dozen .aif files, each of which I'm dragging onto a separate Track, and then on each Track am splitting the content into multiple Regions. I'm using color-coding of those individual Regions, along with text labelling, to help distinguish between different kinds of content. I'll then be copying specific Regions down to new Tracks, from which several different composite versions of the material will be outputted.
All this means I'm going to end up with a LOT of Tracks, and it would be a huge organizational help if I could easily collapse/reveal different groups of Tracks at different times, so I was only having to see and scroll through the relevant ones.
But am I correct in understanding that while some of Logic's competitors have this kind of feature, Logic itself -- astoundingly -- does not???
Bracing myself for the bad news,
John Bertram
Toronto

Bee Jay wrote:
The nearest you can do is pack the tracks into a folder, and delete the source tracks, you you end up with only one folder track in the top level, and you can go "into" the folder to see the tracks and contents of it, and come back out again.
I didn't realize there was the option to delete the source tracks but retain the Folder -- perhaps I'll explore that.
But am I correct in understanding that while some of Logic's competitors have this
kind of feature, Logic itself -- astoundingly -- does not???
Well, not every piece of software has every feature imaginable - and this hasn't stopped people making music with Logic.
In order to implement this, you'd probably have to introduce some kind of track group which would be similar to region folders ("track folders") in order to group like tracks and therefore fold and unfold the track folders' contents - but this might start to get confusing to have two different, but similar functions in the arrange page.
I admit, "astounding" was just me venting. But the hypothetical implementation you describe is exactly what I was hoping to find. As for potential confusion, perhaps they'd need to avoid the word "folder", and call them "track groups", or something like that. But I think it would be an extremely useful organizational tool for those projects where your Tracks start numbering in the several dozens. (Plus it would allow the user to re-position a whole group of Tracks in one move, rather than having to select, drag, and position each Track one at a time.)
Sounds like Feedback Time, once again ('guess it beats doing actual work!).
Thanks very much for the well-considered reply.
jb

Software instruments wont play in arrange window

Hi,
I have recently purchased Logic Pro 9 from app store but when I select a new track as a software instrument there is no sound when playing samples in the arrange window.
The samples will play fine in the browser window and will also show up on the mixer levels when I give midi keyboard command but just no sound.
Audio tracks have no problems.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks

In addition:
The reason a Green Apple Loop can be played from a MIDI keyboard (provided it's set up correctly) is, a green loop loads an instrument.
To work with instruments on your own, without loops.
Go here:
http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/
Open "Exploring Logic Pro" look at chapter 3. But really, read the whole thing if you have time. If the manuals aren't used most users never get beyond using 5% of Logic's capabilities.

Logic 9 arrange window is missing

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