Logic and Reason Combinators

I am running into a problem with Logic and Reason's Combinator module.
As you may know, the Combinator uses multiple synth modules and "combines" them. When I create an Aux track in Logic and and try to assign it to a Combinator patch (ex: Reason Pianos), instead of the sum Combinator showing up, all of the individual synth modules show up, thus I am unable to play the sum result of the Combinator patches. I can only select ONE of the four or five pianos that makes up the patch.
Anyway around this?

Search the "ALL OBJECTS" layer of your environment to see if there is a rewire object labeled "Combinator". If you find it, click the "chain" button on both the environment and the arrange windows, create an external midi track in the arrange window (make sure the track stays selected), then use the MIDI tool to click on the rewire object in the environment to set it up as a track in your arrange window. If you can't find a combinator rewire object, then you will have to create a new rewire object in the environment. To do this, choose NEW/INTERNAL/REWIRE OBJECT. With the rewire object selected, you will have to select the channel for the COMBINATOR (keep in mind that the channel name of the sum combinator will be the same name on the combinator's label strip in Reason). In the parameter box, change the rewire bus if the channel selection is not available.

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