Logic Control Jog Wheel Erratic in 7.1.1, OK in 6.4.3

Rotating the Jog Wheel clockwise causes the SPL to leap to bar 13, 66, 201 and rotating counter-clockwise allows no rewind function except return to zero. I have re-initialized everything including key commands, even re-installing Logic Pro 7.1 and updating to 7.1.1 and no difference. The Logic Control continues to work perfectly under Logic Pro 6.4.3, so this is specifically related to Logic Pro 7 Can anyone offer any help?

Anybody know anything about this??

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