Logic Express 7 - EXS24 Instrument Editor

Just bought LE7. Can't find the EXS24 instrument editor (which is in LE6). Any ideas please? thanks.

hi. thanks for the tip.
another problem: I've tried playing an EXS instrument I've created in LE6 in a song in LE7 and although I hear the instrument in the record mode, I can't hear it in the playback mode. there's a signal in the arrange window next to the audio instrument but no signal in the volume area in the mixer. this isn't happening with pre-existing EXS instruments.
any idea please?
oops. solved this. just needed to switch out of logic 7 and re-boot. doh!
Message was edited by: Liam Moore

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That's how it used to be in Logic 7.
But how can I do it in Logic 8?

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