Logic + motu 828 + analog mixer

So I have a Motu 828 MK1 and wanna buy a small mixer (behringer EURORACK UB802 or Tapco Mix 100 ).
But I little confused about audio routing in Logic Express 7.2
So signal from motu outs 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 will be connected to inputs 1, 2, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8 on mixer.
And then master out from mixer will be return to motu inputs 1,2 for bouncing.
How to setup Logic environment?
Thanks.
iMac 20" Core 2 Duo Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Is your MIDI interface going through a hub? Is the MC on dedicated ports? Have you rebuilt defaults in the Control Surfaces submenu? Have you tried another MIDI interface? If you delete everything in Control Surface setup, does Logic automatically install the MC next time you boot Logic?

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Richard

GUYS - THIS IS THE SILLY SIMPLE FIX ......
Keep everything routed in Logic outputs as normal:-
L - 1
R - 2
Ls -3
Rs -4
C - 5
LFE - 6
So bounce everything as normal including standard stereo outs.
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DEFAULT STEREO OUTPUT - MAIN OUT 1-2
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R comes out of MAIN OUT 2
Ls comes out of ANALOGUE OUT 1
Rs comes out of ANALOGUE OUT 2
C comes out of ANALOGUE OUT 3
LFE comes out of ANALOGUE OUT 4
DONE ....... you can carry on as if nothing happened!
Thanks for looking at this ..... sorry for being a nincompoop !
Best
Richard
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PaulDS wrote:
It works fine with iTunes music and listening to sounds/mp3s etc from my desktop but as soon as i boot up logic pro and try to work on a project the only sound output i get is very high pitched noises and large gaps between these noises. It wont play any sounds at all through pro even samples via the browser.
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I assume MIDI is earlier than audio.
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